Walter Cruz Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 56 minutes ago, Fleer said: $9 or naught that would be fine, and at this price, probably everyone would WUP 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heath Row Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 7 hours ago, abacab said: Best comment so far on KVR: "So not an informative post then, just more Waves bashing from the same idiotic members. Hey ho". Funny, that comment suits this forum to a tee as well. Hey ho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vst0nE Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 WUP will never disappear if studios and rich people will keep pumpin money buying it, simple. Better get PA plugins, updates free, just stay out of subs and get what you need on sale. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e-cue Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MusicMan Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 11 hours ago, Tony Carpenter said: I have mixed feelings about this. Strongest about negative is to pay for a number of plug-in fixes… that’s definitely not right. I love quite a few of my waves plug-ins, but, time to replace them with stuff I always own and or similar things that update without wup. Given WUP is their gravy train, there's really very little incentive for Waves to care about getting the plugins right the first time around.. quite the opposite... They can hurry to release and sell and then care about bug fixes a few years later, essentially double dipping and getting people to pay more than once. I like all the devs that provide bug fixes at least for as long as they're selling it and that is a very long list of developers with excellent plugins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MusicMan Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 1 hour ago, dee said: WUP will never disappear if studios and rich people will keep pumpin money buying it, simple. Better get PA plugins, updates free, just stay out of subs and get what you need on sale. Exactly this. If people stop paying and buying their plugins, WUP would be gone in a few years. Not exactly rocket science. It's a crap practice and given the plethora of alternative companies that provide ongoing updates for the life of plugins, it's a bit comical people pay it so willingly. That's why I very reluctantly buy anything Waves any more. Instead of paying WUP, I just look to replace it with something from another developer. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Ewing Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, dee said: Better get PA plugins, updates free, just stay out of subs and get what you need on sale. But I can buy what I need on sale with the $200 voucher I get with the Mix & Master subscription. I'm on my 3rd annual subscription ($600 in vouchers on $450 in subscription fees), and now own all the plugins I actually need while having access to their entire Mix & Master catalog of like 100 plugins + anything new they release in that year. And I know what plugins I actually NEED, because I've been using them for a whole year. On the flip side, I could endlessly waste time scouring sales to buy plugins I've likely never used, or never used for any length of time, likely spending more than $150 a year on crap that'll sit in a plugin folder for eternity, while still not having access to like 100 plugins that cover almost every single thing I could possibly ever need. The PA subscriptions are a no brainer. Anyone not using them, while still spending $150 a year on plugins that are covered under that subscription is wasting their time and money. They are giving you $200 in product for $150, and a demo of 100 plugins... for a year... to decide what you want to own. It's, without a doubt, the best deal on the market. My annual budget for mix & mastering related plugins is $150 a year. I don't need anything else (in that category) with that subscription. That is insane. There are people who still spend $1000s a year on UAD plugins that have equivalents covered under that subscription. It boggles my mind. Edited June 22, 2022 by Carl Ewing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MusicMan Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 Dirk... is that... you... ? ? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locrian Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 Version 14 seems to have eliminated the Preset Browser (introduced in v12). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Shelby Posted June 22, 2022 Author Share Posted June 22, 2022 8 hours ago, MusicMan said: Dirk... is that... you... ? ? I questioned Dirk about the Top Tier Voucher. The $99 Sub gets you a $149.99 Voucher The $149 Sub gets you a $199.99 Voucher The $249 Sub gets you a $249.99 Voucher???? He never responded to the question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSMcGuitar Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 Personally, I know this shouldn't matter, but the PA plugins have never appealed to me because they look like they were made in 2003. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleer Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 4 minutes ago, RSMcGuitar said: Personally, I know this shouldn't matter, but the PA plugins have never appealed to me because they look like they were made in 2003. ? Many of the Brainworx ones for sure. But some of the new plugs are pretty pretty. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monomox Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 2 hours ago, RSMcGuitar said: Personally, I know this shouldn't matter, but the PA plugins have never appealed to me because they look like they were made in 2003. ? WRONG! Some of them look like they were made in 2004. ? Since this is a Waves thread let me add that some of their plugins look like they were made by the War Games sfx unit 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abacab Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 5 hours ago, locrian said: Version 14 seems to have eliminated the Preset Browser (introduced in v12). I'm still seeing the new preset browser in the plugins that I updated to v14. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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