Larry Shelby Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 (edited) Pro Tools 2022.4 Released - Everything You Need To Know Versions are now Pro Tools Artist Pro Tools Studio Pro Tools Flex (Ultimate + Products) With Pro Tools 2022.4 Avid have shaken up their product lineup, adding value for everyone but particularly for aspiring producers and continuing their progression towards moving customers to a subscription model. We have all the details. Info here https://www.pro-tools-expert.com/home-page/pro-tools-2022-4-released-everything-you-need-to-know Avid Link updated 22.4.0 Edited April 26, 2022 by cclarry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Penguin Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 I'll stick with my Standard perpetual license, thank you too much! Subscriptions?! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bapu Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Bad Penguin said: I'll stick with my Standard perpetual license, thank you too much! Subscriptions?! ? This also is a subscription-only product for new customers and in several ways feels closer to Pro Tools Ultimate than the old Pro Tools Standard. My Standard perpetual license was converted to ProTools Studio perpetual and my update plans are still valid through Sept 2025. I imagine at some point they will un-grandfather my perpetual license but that's got to be 3 yrs and 5 months away. [EDIT] I just purchased 2 more years of updates at jrrship.com for $354.22 with code FORUM. I'm assuming that in Sept 2025 they would start charging me $299/yr so I got two extra years for ~$55 more than one year under the inflated current pricing scheme. Edited April 26, 2022 by Bapu 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e-cue Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 Translation: Short Avid stock asap! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bapu Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 2 hours ago, Bad Penguin said: I'll stick with my Standard perpetual license, thank you too much! Subscriptions?! ? Technically speaking you are on a subscription with CbB. It's just free (until it's not ? ) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smallstonefan Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 My subscription is up in a month. The move to perpetual doesn’t seem to make sense. Where is the cheapest renewals for subscription? I think it’s jrr shop but I am hoping someone is running a deal out there somewhere. I like Pro Tools. I resisted for years but now that I’ve switched and I use a pair of S1 control surfaces with the ssl UC2 channel controller between them for hardware I love love love it. I use Ableton for creating but then expert to PT to mix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrie Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Bapu said: [EDIT] I just purchased 2 more years of updates at jrrship.com for $354.22 with code FORUM. I'm assuming that in Sept 2025 they would start charging me $299/yr so I got two extra years for ~$55 more than one year under the inflated current pricing scheme. Only 14.75 a month, that's a good deal! If you think about it differently.. that's 6 Waves plugins @ $29.00 - You'll probably get more use out of Pro Tools ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Penguin Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 (edited) deleted Edited April 27, 2022 by Bad Penguin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrie Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, Bad Penguin said: Ok, I'll admit to being a complete ProTools n00b, being < 3 months into owning Standard perpetual, with one year of updates and support. So what happens at the end of year 1 for me? I have to pay $299/yr for a subscription? AND (!) I also have to pay $199/yr for another year of updates and support? If you have a perpetual license, you will either need to renew support each year at $199.00 (historical cost), or if you do not renew, you can continue using your current version forever. If you later decide you want to get support again, there is a cost $349.00 (currently) for "Reinstatement" which includes one year of support. Edited April 27, 2022 by Barrie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Shelby Posted April 27, 2022 Author Share Posted April 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, Barrie said: If you have a perpetual license, you will either need to renew support each year at $199.00 (historical cost), or if you do not renew, you can continue using your current version forever. If you later decide you want to get support again, there is a cost $349.00 (currently) for "Reinstatement" which includes one year of support. It's basically Pro Tools WUP...so call it PUP.... 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e-cue Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 23 minutes ago, cclarry said: It's basically Pro Tools WUP...so call it PUP.... somewhere... fleer just dropped a glass in horror, but won't understand why.... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bapu Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, cclarry said: It's basically Pro Tools WUP...so call it PUP.... With one exception, at least ProTools does a few/several updates throughout a calendar year. Edited April 27, 2022 by Bapu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bapu Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 (edited) I'm experiencing looooooonger session load times with ProTools Studio now ? Before anyone asks, system specs are thus: Windows 10 64-bit, Intel I9 10900K processor O.C. 5.0GHz, Asus Prime Z490-A mobo, 128Gb PC3300 Memory, 1TB - SSD Program Drive Edited April 29, 2022 by Bapu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bapu Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 14 hours ago, Bapu said: I'm experiencing looooooonger session load times with ProTools Studio now ? Maybe I need save under the new version to get faster load times. I'll give that a try. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrie Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 14 hours ago, Bapu said: Before anyone asks, system specs are thus: Windows 10 64-bit, Intel I9 10900K processor O.C. 5.0GHz, Asus Prime Z490-A mobo, 128Gb PC3300 Memory, 1TB - SSD Program Drive I think the problem is you have way too much memory. ? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bapu Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 4 hours ago, Barrie said: I think the problem is you have way too much memory many plugins. ? What you were probably thinking? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrie Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 2 hours ago, Bapu said: 7 hours ago, Barrie said: I think the problem is you have way too much memory many plugins. ? 2 hours ago, Bapu said: What you were probably thinking? Is too many plugins an actual thing? Say it isn't so.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bapu Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 1 hour ago, Barrie said: Is too many plugins an actual thing? Say it isn't so.... I was just "feeding the trolls" ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bapu Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 (edited) On my 2012 MacPro (Catalina)I'm having troubles with ProTools Studio. So far it crashed on scan of NI RC-48. I deleted that plugin in all locations and then PTS crashed with 'nothing'. After I either click Save The Log or click Send To AVID, PTS just closes. In IT Crowd fashion I tried turning it off and on again. Now I got as far as Revalver IV and then PTS just closes with no error. I'm going to try to find out if this a known issue on Catalina and if so can I revert to ProTools Standard on my Mac. FWIW: On the PC no such problems. Edited April 30, 2022 by Bapu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bapu Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 PC Install is working just fine. Mac is my 'backup' machine so it's not a showsopper. FWIW ProTools Standard on the Mac never had these problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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