Simeon Amburgey Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 I was able to work with Verve, the new felt upright included with the release of Cubase 12. Verve, is a very nice felt upright, and like my first thought, do we really need any more felted uprights ;^) This one is very nice. If you do not have Cubase 12, it can be purchased separately and can be used with the free HALionsonic SE player. https://www.steinberg.net/vst-instruments/verve/ 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 Also good to know about Cubase 12: Due to technical reasons the following plug-ins and technologies have been removed from the product scope VST instruments: Mystic, Prologue, Specter, LoopMash are no longer included in the factory content of Cubase. Cubase no longer supports ReWire. VST 2 plug-ins are no longer supported on Apple silicon Macs running in native mode. Running Cubase in Rosetta mode still allows you to load VST 2 plug-ins. MPEX is also no longer available on Apple silicon Macs running in native mode. The GoPro VR player has been removed. MixConvert (legacy VST 2 plug-in) and SurroundPan (legacy VST 2 plug-in) have been removed from the plug-in set. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locrian Posted March 2, 2022 Author Share Posted March 2, 2022 5 hours ago, simon said: yes I think they are welcome - apart from one of the issues with ARA within cubendo is that some ARA plugs (spectralogic for example) store the ARA/wav data in the project file. This means the project files can get massive. The take ages to load/save and when they hit 4gig cubendo won't load them anymore https://forums.steinberg.net/t/cpr-sizes-go-crazy-500mb-for-simple-unmix-stems-project/160644/8 (lots of other postings on the same issue and it's an acknowledged issue ) Applying to an entire track at once just makes the problem worse IMO - I tend to render out clips and apply where needed. Maybe C12/SL8.2 have fixed the problem ? I just skimmed the post you referenced. Is bouncing the ARA clip/track a viable option to reduce project size and decrease load time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locrian Posted March 2, 2022 Author Share Posted March 2, 2022 11 minutes ago, Frank said: Also good to know about Cubase 12: Due to technical reasons the following plug-ins and technologies have been removed from the product scope VST instruments: Mystic, Prologue, Specter, LoopMash are no longer included in the factory content of Cubase. This one seems a bit odd. They removed these plugins from the factory content but they still work in version 12. So why did they remove them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Shelby Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 Worst Rollout ever....they've been taking lessons from IK I presume.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locrian Posted March 2, 2022 Author Share Posted March 2, 2022 1 hour ago, Simeon Amburgey said: I was able to work with Verve, the new felt upright included with the release of Cubase 12. Verve, is a very nice felt upright, and like my first thought, do we really need any more felted uprights ;^) This one is very nice. If you do not have Cubase 12, it can be purchased separately and can be used with the free HALionsonic SE player. https://www.steinberg.net/vst-instruments/verve/ Great video (and surprisingly useful piano). Had I not watched it I would likely not have even installed it because, like you, I thought who needs another felt piano? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locrian Posted March 2, 2022 Author Share Posted March 2, 2022 2 minutes ago, cclarry said: Worst Rollout ever....they've been taking lessons from IK I presume.... IKM is in a class all by themselves. ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locrian Posted March 2, 2022 Author Share Posted March 2, 2022 4 minutes ago, cclarry said: Worst Rollout ever....they've been taking lessons from IK I presume.... But seriously, what is the problem? The grace period upgrade? Activation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InstrEd Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 1 minute ago, locrian said: IKM is in a class all by themselves. ? Wish I didn't have to agree with this statement but you are correct about IKM rollouts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Lawler Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 6 minutes ago, locrian said: But seriously, what is the problem? The grace period upgrade? Activation? I keep getting: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locrian Posted March 2, 2022 Author Share Posted March 2, 2022 A very useful new feature I just discovered is the ability to create custom scripts for all your MIDI controllers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locrian Posted March 2, 2022 Author Share Posted March 2, 2022 1 minute ago, Brian Lawler said: I keep getting: Okay. This may be the cause: https://forums.steinberg.net/t/cpr-sizes-go-crazy-500mb-for-simple-unmix-stems-project/160644/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Hulse Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 So, I was thinking when things calm down... I have CB 11 on a desktop already with the E-Licenser. I would like to install CB 12 on a new MacBook (with no previous installation). But, will that render my desktop's CB 11 as no longer usable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Lawler Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 Thanks for the tip. I GUESS I can fiddle with my 700+ plug-ins in my five other DAWS while I patiently wait for the eLicense servers to cool off ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 31 minutes ago, locrian said: I just skimmed the post you referenced. Is bouncing the ARA clip/track a viable option to reduce project size and decrease load time? yes - just render the clip/track and remove the ARA plugin - that 'should' bring the project size back down to normal 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 27 minutes ago, locrian said: This one seems a bit odd. They removed these plugins from the factory content but they still work in version 12. So why did they remove them? licensing issues I think - 3rd party supplier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 12 minutes ago, Brian Lawler said: I keep getting: They are totally overwhelmed - it was fine this morning (UK time) but it's got gradually worse over the day. Not the first time this has happened to SB They are aware and are 'spinning' this as a reason why they wanted to move away from the elicencer - but basically they just need to buy more bandwidth/cpu power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locrian Posted March 2, 2022 Author Share Posted March 2, 2022 1 minute ago, simon said: licensing issues I think - 3rd party supplier Hmm, I didn't realize that (I assumed they were made by Steinberg). I guess "technical reasons" is a euphemism for licensing issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 14 minutes ago, locrian said: A very useful new feature I just discovered is the ability to create custom scripts for all your MIDI controllers. a good addition ? was supposed to be in V11 so only 18 months delayed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 Just now, locrian said: Hmm, I didn't realize that (I assumed they were made by Steinberg). I guess "technical reasons" is a euphemism for licensing issues. they buy stuff in from 3rd parties - aren't they still shipping a Voxengo plug with C12 still ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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