Marc Cormier Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 Normally 99€, now 59€ for BF. https://www.orb-composer.com/shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reid Rosefelt Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 Didn't this company used to be called Hexachords? Anybody have the new version? Worth paying €39 for an upgrade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Penguin Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 I understand that each will have pros and cons, but "generally" for a n00b, which is "best"? Orb Producer Suite 3, $66 Audiomodern Suite, $112 Captain plugin bundle, $60 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Cormier Posted November 26, 2021 Author Share Posted November 26, 2021 (edited) I've been waiting for Orb Producer 3 since last year. GUI is excellent, the generated sequences were pretty interesting and flexibility to increase complexity is excellent. Orb Synth has some fairly good stock sounds out the gate. For Captains plugins, I found the UI a bit busier, the sounds not so good but the output also useful. Captain includes a beat module, whereas Orb does not. Captain also supports more scales than Orb. However, it requires a continuous internet connection, which was a no-go for me. I may plonk down the $50 in case the new version (6) does away with that requirement. They include that update for free if you buy now. I have Audiomodern Riffer which I really like for melody generation tons of scales and on-the-fly parameters to tweak. Haven't used the other Audiomodern components but the convenience and UI of Orb is what's most attractive to me anyway. As you rightly mentioned, they all have strengths and weaknesses. For me, the user experience ability to save time/reduce complexity is especially important. Edited November 26, 2021 by Marc Cormier 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Lawler Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Bad Penguin said: I understand that each will have pros and cons, but "generally" for a n00b, which is "best"? Orb Producer Suite 3, $66 Good product. Can generate longer more "orchestral" type motifs. No percussion generator. 1 hour ago, Bad Penguin said: Audiomodern Suite, $112 Fun but very random. You are going to be clicking the dice and going through a lot of tries to get interesting cohesive parts. Not in the same league as the other two. They also can't interchange data like the other two suites parts. 1 hour ago, Bad Penguin said: Captain plugin bundle, $60 More good stuff- Drum part generator is excellent. More suited to pop/edm. I find the chord parts a little more difficult to work with than Orb. If you want the easiest and broadest capability- get Orb AND CP. You can use the CP percussion generator with Orb, and have a lot of flexibility to experiment with the different part generators. You didn't mention Plugin Boutique Scaler 2.5- Really outstanding (no percussion generator) BUT I would not put this in the noob category. A little more work to set up master/slave tracks for chords, bass, melody, arps... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antler Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 8 hours ago, Reid Rosefelt said: Didn't this company used to be called Hexachords? It still is - from the bottom of their website: Just a guess, but it might be like how everyone referred to Twelve Tone Systems as Cakewalk, and then the name just stuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reid Rosefelt Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 I haven't use this much since I got it, but it was a lot of fun to play with then. I may go for the update. I don't feel like I've scratched the surface with Scaler, but this is something very different. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Penguin Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 22 hours ago, Brian Lawler said: If you want the easiest and broadest capability- get Orb AND CP. You can use the CP percussion generator with Orb, and have a lot of flexibility to experiment with the different part generators. This is what I am going to do! Thanks everyone! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul_in_wales Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 (edited) @bad penguin - If you're okay with using a standalone app to feed midi into your DAW, don't forget to check out sundog song studio - only 15% off for BF though. https://feelyoursound.com/sundog/ Edited November 27, 2021 by Paul_in_wales 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Penguin Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 Scaler is above my paygrade, but I did download the demo for Sundog. Thanks, wasn't aware of that one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubdisciple Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 8 minutes ago, Bad Penguin said: Scaler is above my paygrade, but I did download the demo for Sundog. Thanks, wasn't aware of that one! Scaler sometimes goes on sale for 29. Another option for free chord playing is ripchord. Super minimalistic in that it only does chords and doesn't actually generate them, but is surprisingly intuitive and useful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Penguin Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 (edited) Trying to order Orb Producer Suite 3 for 59€, and during checkout (when not logged in [to a US account]), it shows about 10€ in VAT. When logged in, price remains at 59€. Shouldn't it be ~49€? Maybe I should just buy it before Tuesday at 59€ and if they won't refund the VAT, then I can just get a full refund? Quote Can I get a refund on Hexachords products? We are so confident in our software that we offer a 30-day money back guarantee. If you are not satisfied with your purchase, you can return it for a full refund of the purchase price. Next stop, Captain Plugins . . . Edited November 27, 2021 by Bad Penguin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Penguin Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 (edited) Heard back from Hexachords: Quote ... the price with/without VAT is the same. Revenge of the Europeans, US customer is penalized 10€ / $11. Have to think about how I feel about this. Edited November 28, 2021 by Bad Penguin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yan Filiatrault Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 25 minutes ago, Bad Penguin said: Heard back from Hexachords: Revenge of the Europeans, US customer is penalized 10€ / $11. Have to think about how I feel about this. Seems the same thing like Parawave Rapid synth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Xmetric Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 Hey if anyone wants to see Orb in action, I made this workflow video, you can create decent music with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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