locrian Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, cclarry said: One man's junk is another man's treasure... AD is vastly inferior in every aspect, other than sound quality, being "on par", but the MIDI capabilities of EZDrummer are far superior to Addictive drums, and are about to get even better soon.... Respectfully and strongly disagree. Junk? Really? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Shelby Posted November 19, 2021 Author Share Posted November 19, 2021 1 minute ago, locrian said: Respectfully and strongly disagree. Junk? Really? It's a colloquialism...it doesn't mean AD is junk....just that what one person doesn't like, another person loves... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamikaze Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locrian Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Kamikaze said: Wow, when did they add that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canopus Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 18 minutes ago, Kamikaze said: Everything. Even the all the midi packs? Yes, every drum kit, every MIDI pak, every kit piece, every effect, and on top of that also Addictive Trigger, XO and all Addictive Keys. The works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamikaze Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 8 minutes ago, Canopus said: Yes, every drum kit, every MIDI pak, every kit piece, every effect, and on top of that also Addictive Trigger, XO and all Addictive Keys. The works. Ahh, but do you have the T-shirt and Coffee mug? Actually I'm making that up, but there probably is some and you probably have them too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamikaze Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 10 minutes ago, locrian said: Wow, when did they add that? No idea, I've just come back from a hiatus and somehow I stumbled on it the other day pretty quickly. But I like it a a lot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluzdog Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 Addictive Trigger is awesome and the fact that it utilizes samples from AD2 makes it an incredible value. If I had one feature request for AD2, it would be to implement a song builder like EZ Drummer, EZ keys, EZ Bass, etc. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locrian Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, TheSteven said: I find with XO I can pretty much dial in what ever drum sound/type I'm looking for and then get back to song writing. And it's currently only $53.76 at Plugin Discounts. Edited November 19, 2021 by locrian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
telecode 101 Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 The XLN keys are amazing stuff. I recently spend some time working on some electric piano. XLN blows NI and Scarbee keys out of the water in sound and features. I am looking at XO and perhaps RC-20. $49 still seems a little high for RC-20. Wasn't it $35 at one point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleer Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 Lusting after that RC-20 as well. Would love to see it under $30 though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesse g Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 I love using AD2 because it easy to use, however, I do think it's time for a facelift with AD3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaartian Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 4 hours ago, cclarry said: I stopped using XLN a while ago...it's basically "abandonware", their marketing is horrid, and it offers nothing over the other options, which get updated and added to regularly. Once I bought Superior Drummer (v2, then upgraded to v3), I stopped using AD2. Never gone back. Never missed it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSteven Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 And XO can seamlessly use all those one-shots and other drum samples that I've been collecting over the years... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrie Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 35 minutes ago, telecode 101 said: The XLN keys are amazing stuff. I recently spend some time working on some electric piano. XLN blows NI and Scarbee keys out of the water in sound and features. I am looking at XO and perhaps RC-20. $49 still seems a little high for RC-20. Wasn't it $35 at one point? $41.97 at JRRShop with discount code GROUP. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PavlovsCat Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 6 minutes ago, John Maar said: Once I bought Superior Drummer (v2, then upgraded to v3), I stopped using AD2. Never gone back. Never missed it. I have AD2 and use it a lot, but I am a former semi-pro drummer who is super picky about sampled drums and I greatly prefer Superior Drummer over AD2 or BFD3 (which I don't own, I'm just going off demos and the UI). However, I'm still using SD2 and a bunch of expansions , which I love and still runs great on my Windows 10 PC. But Toontrack pulled upgrade pricing for SD3 long ago and a full version is $400 USD -- even $300 for ezDrummer 2 owners -- which is not me -- is pretty steep. I've consulted to a couple of dozen plugin and sample developers over the years, and I find Toontrack is one of the least customer loyal plugin developers in this business today. Yes, AD2 definitely doesn't sound as good to my ears and it's not as feature packed as SD3, but XLN is a much more customer-focused company. I really dislike some of the customer unfriendly practices I've seen Toontrack engage in over the years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Lawler Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 2 hours ago, locrian said: And it's currently only $53.76 at Plugin Discounts. Most of the XO love focuses on the sound selection, which IS cool. I think the beat editor is my favorite feature. No brainer at that price. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tezza Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 Isn't AD2 like over 10 years old now and has never changed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antler Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 2 hours ago, PavlovsCat said: I really dislike some of the customer unfriendly practices I've seen Toontrack engage in over the years. I can only really think of one, which was discontinuing SD3 upgrades from SD2, but tbh I haven't been paying that much attention. They do exclude their newer SDXs from sales, but you do get pick-your-own-bundle packs now which would offer a discount (something to keep on a wishlist for the store-wide discount vouchers that some online stores occasional give out). IIRC, they also have 12-days-of-Christmas sales in December. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Shelby Posted November 19, 2021 Author Share Posted November 19, 2021 My experiences with Toontrack have been nothing but good. I'm sure there was a good reason (for them) to shut the door on upgrades...I highly doubt it was "arbitrary", and just to make people mad...that's not their MO.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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