chris.r Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 1 hour ago, abacab said: But even with an outright purchase, you still have to be connected to the net to remain "activated". SMH... ? Yep, roland cloud authorization method sucks 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsinger Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 1 hour ago, chris.r said: Yep, roland cloud authorization method sucks It's surprising that comes from a music tech company. They don't think people will have it on a DAW? They don't realize you don't want notifications while you're tracking? I have it installed, but I have startup and notifications disabled. I haven't purchased anything because of the implementation. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abacab Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 1 hour ago, chris.r said: Yep, roland cloud authorization method sucks Yep, that's why I think I will stick to the Korg Collection 3 for my digital synth emulation collection. It is very, very nice! I had a Korg X-2 workstation back in the 90's, so their ROMplers are a bit familiar. And I always wanted a Wavestation, but could never afford one! I guess if I want some retro Roland ROMpler sounds, I will have to drag my gear out of the closet. But I have been moving away from hardware for the last 10 years. Virtual instruments are so much easier to work with. Look Ma, no SysEx! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byron Dickens Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 12 hours ago, chris.r said: Are there any good D-10/D-50 emulations apart from the expensive Roland Cloud? Like we have Dexed which is pretty amazing, same with PG-8X. Also there's VirtualCZ that can be had for a small fee. But what about D-10 or 50? These guys have a sampled D5: https://beatmachine.co.uk/vst-synths.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iRelevant Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 On 10/17/2021 at 4:11 PM, abacab said: Yep, I looked into Roland Cloud, but passed on that. Have similar feelings about that RC like I do with Waves WUP, LOL! I would have liked the JV-1080 emulation, as I have the real hardware rack version of that one, as well as the earlier JV880, and the later XP-30 61-key synth, fully expanded. But even with an outright purchase, you still have to be connected to the net to remain "activated". SMH... ? Really ? That's a downer. I thought you only needed the connection to activate an install Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abacab Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 3 hours ago, iRelevant said: Really ? That's a downer. I thought you only needed the connection to activate an install A constant connection is not required. But periodic connections are required to maintain product activations. I believe that they may have increased the duration between required online "check-ins", but that is how Roland rolls... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris.r Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 (edited) Yep, from once a week to once a month, after collecting too much fuss about it. Still a bummer, if you're not online it will lock you right there where you are. Edited October 24, 2021 by chris.r Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abacab Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 2 minutes ago, chris.r said: Yep, from once a week to once a month, after collecting too much fuss about it. Still a bummer, if you're not online it will lock you right there where you are. Very nice of Korg to take the high road, and avoid that recurring activation drama! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris.r Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 2 minutes ago, abacab said: Very nice of Korg to take the high road, and avoid that recurring activation drama! Agree, I have the Collection without some of the latest additions, and they are very useful. I think, in a long run, I would shell out for one or two Roland perpetual licenses if there was just online activation without the rest of annoyance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abacab Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 9 minutes ago, chris.r said: I think, in a long run, I would shell out for one or two Roland perpetual licenses if there was just online activation without the rest of annoyance. Yep, same here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iRelevant Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 2 hours ago, abacab said: A constant connection is not required. But periodic connections are required to maintain product activations. I believe that they may have increased the duration between required online "check-ins", but that is how Roland rolls... Total turn off for me. I have been impressed and contemplating exploring the MV-1 setup in combo with RC. Seemed very convenient to have software replicas of their digital synths. Well well ... Just need to keep on stacking in the rack then I see ... From a ownership perspective this seems like a regression far back in time. With time 'your' product will become obsolete and depreciated. Observe these problems already with early NI releases. 20 years from now it will be the same with RC stuff, while the physical hardware after a recap still keeps on rocking hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsinger Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 1 hour ago, chris.r said: Agree, I have the Collection without some of the latest additions, and they are very useful. I think, in a long run, I would shell out for one or two Roland perpetual licenses if there was just online activation without the rest of annoyance. I've got some of the Korg stuff and like that. Roland had a sale last year and I was tempted to get both the D-50 and 808. The Jupiter is good too, but I have a jp-8080 with all the knobs... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abacab Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 I have some Roland hardware that I would probably sell, if I could buy Roland virtual emulations of them without the ridiculous copy protection. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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