NI Discovery Series Updates

[Magic Russ]

This morning I saw updates to Cuba, West Africa, India, Middle East in Native Access.  Unfortunately Native Access does not show what changed for these, and no information on NI site either.

[Olong Johnson]

Vaccine update?

[InstrEd]

4 minutes ago, Olong Johnson said:

Vaccine update?

Nah just a Booster Shot

[Magic Russ]

Now it says changed the logo and image in the library browser.  Not exactly most essential release I've seen.

[telecode 101]

my guess is its related to the new asia pack.

 

https://www.native-instruments.com/en/products/komplete/spotlight-collection/east-asia/?utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&utm_campaign=East Asia all | Yangqin owners | 28/06/21&utm_id=06cf037e-8666-4db2-9647-a0daac7d2aa5

[jesse g]

 

I don't care what it is, I just like updates to owned products.  ?

[Sander Verstraten]

1 hour ago, Magic Russ said:

Now it says changed the logo and image in the library browser.  Not exactly most essential release I've seen.

Do the use 1024 bit images? Why are the updates so large...

[marcL]

Fxxxing updates! 99% of plugin updates are only a waste of time. That's why I hate if there is no detailed update description and that's why I hate those plugin manager programs, because they do a lot of sxxt and you don't know what it is for!

[Magic Russ]

6 hours ago, telecode 101 said:

my guess is its related to the new asia pack.

 

https://www.native-instruments.com/en/products/komplete/spotlight-collection/east-asia/?utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&utm_campaign=East Asia all | Yangqin owners | 28/06/21&utm_id=06cf037e-8666-4db2-9647-a0daac7d2aa5

They are changing the name from Discovery Series to Spotlight Collection.  Perhaps the old name does not translate well into Chinese.

[Reid Rosefelt]

11 hours ago, Magic Russ said:

They are changing the name from Discovery Series to Spotlight Collection.  Perhaps the old name does not translate well into Chinese.

I suspect it's a change in marketing approach.    "Discovery" is kind of like "Ethnic."  It assumes that there is one dominant group (us) and everything in the rest of the universe is "other."

So, for example, all the two billion or more Asian people in the world are categorized as  "ethnic" (as in Jade Ethnic Orchestra) and their culture needs to be "discovered."  By whom? 

Maybe somebody at NI figured out that the bland category "Spotlight" might be a better term to appeal to their international customers.  

Or maybe not.  I'm doing a video on why I prefer the term "World Music" to "Ethnic Music,"  so it's on my mind. 

[Magic Russ]

You are absolutely right.

[Byron Dickens]

Maybe "discovery" is just as simple as discovering instruments and music you weren't familiar with before...

Not everything has sinister undertones.

[TheSteven]

2 hours ago, bdickens said:

Not everything has sinister undertones.

Sinister - probably not.
Obtuse or culturally insensitive - more likely and sadly quite common. 

Edited June 29, 2021 by TheSteven

[Reid Rosefelt]

I didn't express myself well.  This is not about political correctness.  This is not about "sinister" overtones.   I am only looking at this through an aesthetic perspective.

It's just a question of accuracy in my book.  Music has never been about borders.  It flows like a river. Pretty much all of American popular music is a blend.

For me, using the term "World Music" just makes more sense than "Ethnic Music."   AmpleSound sells a banjo, which they brand as Ample Ethno Banjo.  If there's a young woman in Nashville who learned to play banjo from her father, and he learned from his father--does she think she's making ethnic music with it?  She just thinks it's Country.    But to a Chinese company like AmpleSound it is only an Appalachian instrument.  Ethnic music.

To me, when you follow this line of thinking, it doesn't make any sense, that instruments should be categorized as exotic just because of where they are played.

We all live on the same world, right?  Let people in the political world concern themselves we people who are "ethnic."  For us, everybody who makes music is part of our family. 

And by the way, there is no better example of this than forums like this one.  I've made friends from all over the world.

 

 

Edited June 29, 2021 by Reid Rosefelt

[Byron Dickens]

2 hours ago, TheSteven said:

Sinister - probably not.
Obtuse or culturally insensitive - more likely and sadly quite common. 

Wait ...

 

So discovering things about cultures other than one's own is insensitive?

[fret_man]

Perhaps "Ethnic" just means "primarily associated with a specific group or area". Guitar is not ethnic, but banjo is. Ukulele is, too. Yes, they can be found around the world but they are PRIMARILY associated with a single area (5-string banjo: an American invention, ukulele: Hawaii). I good with Amplesound's classification.

[antler]

49 minutes ago, bdickens said:

So discovering things about cultures other than one's own is insensitive?

That's the thing though - NI have customers worldwide, so which culture is "one's own"?. From the perspective of some cultures, there's nothing to discover as those instruments are already mainstream. Imagine NI released a new line of electric guitar libraries sampling Strats, Teles, etc. and called the series Discover Six-Stringed Instruments.

Edited June 29, 2021 by antler

[TracingArcs]

One thing is for sure. They  are so bland in the browser. They disappear. A bit of overkill for 500mb.

[Byron Dickens]

33 minutes ago, antler said:

Imagine NI released a new line of electric guitar libraries sampling Strats, Teles, etc. and called the series Discover Six-Stringed Instruments.

I wouldn't really have a problem with that.

[kitekrazy1]

I'm waiting when my NI updates don't fail.  Windows Installer Cleanup goes hand in hand with NI updates.  I don't use their deleter because you get all of the backup registry files.  I swear NI stuff writes a zillion codes in the registry.