abacab Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 2 hours ago, pbognar said: And this is considered a Deal? So when is a free Windows OS upgrade announcement not a deal? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User 905133 Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 1 minute ago, abacab said: So when is a free Windows OS upgrade announcement not a deal? I give up. (What's the punch line?) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abacab Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 (edited) 53 minutes ago, Doug Rintoul said: If you can find one. After the Windows 11 announcement, I wouldn't be surprised if there was a run on TPM modules. Probably so. My previous sources are now showing "out of stock". I ordered the day the TPM news went out, and thankfully my part has already been shipped! For $15, I couldn't resist hedging my bets! Edited June 25, 2021 by abacab Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abacab Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 3 minutes ago, User 905133 said: I give up. (What's the punch line?) The post that I was replying to... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abacab Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 (edited) 20 minutes ago, abacab said: Probably so. My previous sources are now showing "out of stock". I ordered the day the TPM news went out, and thankfully my part has already been shipped! For $15, I couldn't resist hedging my bets! https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1237446-REG/asus_tpm_m_r2_0_14_1_pin_tpm_module.html Expected availability: 2-4 weeks $11.99 Edited June 25, 2021 by abacab 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Rintoul Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 10 minutes ago, abacab said: https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1237446-REG/asus_tpm_m_r2_0_14_1_pin_tpm_module.html Expected availability: 2-4 weeks $11.99 Currently out of stock though. But Windows 11 won't be released in the next 2 to 4 weeks will it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abacab Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Doug Rintoul said: Currently out of stock though. But Windows 11 won't be released in the next 2 to 4 weeks will it? The B&H site will let you sign up for notifications when it's back in stock. As far as Windows 11, no worries. You have until October 2025 to get ready... Edited June 25, 2021 by abacab 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbognar Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 42 minutes ago, abacab said: So when is a free Windows OS upgrade announcement not a deal? You have to consider the total cost of ownership - including labor. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msmcleod Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 Apparently you can bypass the TPM 2.0 requirement by replacing Windows 11's appraiserres.dll with the one from Windows 10.... see: https://winaero.com/how-to-install-windows-11-without-tpm-2-0/ ... and scroll down to the "Modify the ISO image without using UltraISO" section I'm not sure if this will be enough though... apparently if you're using an Intel chip you also need a 8th gen or greater. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIBI Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 https://github.com/rcmaehl/WhyNotWin11/releases This check app might be helpful than Windows PC Health Check... 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wibbles Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 (edited) My PC meets the requirements to run Windows 11 ... Hooray? ? "Fresh", "New", "Rejuvenated" in Microsoft terms are synonyms for "We f*cked it up". Edited June 26, 2021 by Wibbles 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cecelius2 Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 6 hours ago, HIBI said: https://github.com/rcmaehl/WhyNotWin11/releases This check app might be helpful than Windows PC Health Check... Thanks. This app is much more helpful. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cristian Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 Before spending money on a TPM module, a word of advice. Pretty much any PC since intel 8th gen should have a TPM module. As for laptops, my current laptop is a cheap acer with intel i5 7th gen and has TPM. So I'd guess most laptops from 2016 onward are probably compatible. Likely even some earlier models. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Morgon-Shaw Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 (edited) So does this mean it doesn't have one or it has one that's not being used ? Edited June 26, 2021 by Mark Morgon-Shaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cristian Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Mark Morgon-Shaw said: So does this mean it doesn't have one or it has one that's not being used ? Most likely it's disabled in the bios. When the time to upgrade comes, look for "AMD CPU fTPM" (or something similar) in the BIOS. Your CPU and board should have TPM support. Edited June 26, 2021 by Cristian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abacab Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 20 hours ago, Cristian said: Before spending money on a TPM module, a word of advice. Pretty much any PC since intel 8th gen should have a TPM module. As for laptops, my current laptop is a cheap acer with intel i5 7th gen and has TPM. So I'd guess most laptops from 2016 onward are probably compatible. Likely even some earlier models. The Intel CPU must also be at least 8th gen. The i5-7200U won't pass the test. MS has announced that 6th and 7th gen is not supported for Win 11. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Rintoul Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 5 hours ago, abacab said: The Intel CPU must also be at least 8th gen. The i5-7200U won't pass the test. MS has announced that 6th and 7th gen is not supported for Win 11. So what is it in the 8th gen CPU that the previous gens do not have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abacab Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 2 hours ago, Doug Rintoul said: So what is it in the 8th gen CPU that the previous gens do not have? Have no idea. Only Microsoft knows... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Promidi Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 1 hour ago, pwalpwal said: looks like i won't be going to wni11 any time soon ? Me neither... I like my taskbar at the top - and so far in 11, it’s it's stuck to the bottom like a hemeoroid. Oh and this whole TPM thing.... don’t get me started..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Roseberry Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 Looks like MS is talking later 2021 into 2022 for the Windows 11 upgrade roll-out. If you're not wanting to be a beta-tester, don't be an early adopter. There will be early issues that'll need driver updates, software patches, Windows updates, etc. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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