jonathan boose Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 (edited) Why do I have crackling and pops when: buffer setting: 2049 samples 32 tracks of audio, no MIDI (yet) -- all of them frozen CbB updated Win 10 updated including optional driver updates soundcard driver updated ?? Win 10 Pro Intel Core i7-3770 @ 3.40 GHz, 3.40 GHz 16 GB RAM 64 bit op sys Lynx Aurora 16 ADC w/ AES16e card Edited June 12, 2021 by jonathan boose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reginaldStjohn Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 Cracks and pops can happen for many reasons. Do you have anit-virus software running? Have you tried to run the program "latencyMon" from resplendent software to see if there are interrupts or other system devices that are causing long delays? I had a NVidia video card that I had to get rid of because it and its driver were causing issues. I would start with Latency Mon and see what it tells you. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gustabo Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 What is your project drive speed? You are using a separate drive for projects and not your os/boot drive, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonathan boose Posted June 13, 2021 Author Share Posted June 13, 2021 2 hours ago, reginaldStjohn said: I would start with Latency Mon and see what it tells you. I would, but the directions say to hit the "start" button but I don't see one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonathan boose Posted June 13, 2021 Author Share Posted June 13, 2021 3 hours ago, gustabo said: What is your project drive speed? You are using a separate drive for projects and not your os/boot drive, right? Yes, I'm using a separate drive for projects. I think it's a fixed speed and it has been working up until now, so I'm not sure what you're getting at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonathan boose Posted June 13, 2021 Author Share Posted June 13, 2021 I thought I just read where the downloads folder can cause a problem? 26.7 gigs of downloads in two years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gswitz Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 (edited) You can download latency monitor tho find out what problems you have. Edited June 13, 2021 by Gswitz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonathan boose Posted June 13, 2021 Author Share Posted June 13, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Gswitz said: You can download latency monitor tho find out what problems you have. As I mentioned before, "I would, but the directions say to hit the "start" button but I don't see one." This is how it shows up. Edited June 13, 2021 by jonathan boose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaquria Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 7 minutes ago, jonathan boose said: As I mentioned before, "I would, but the directions say to hit the "start" button but I don't see one." This is how it shows up. That is not LatencyMon, that is their registry management tool. Download LatencyMon from this direct link and install it: https://www.resplendence.com/download/LatencyMon.exe 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Vere Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 Turn of your internet. I had to do this last night. Normally it never causes problems but out of the blue I was getting a drop out on a project that I just started. I upped my buffers a bit and it still happened. It happened about 5 times and I then disabled the internet and it never came back. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rfssongs Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 (edited) * Have you tried disconnecting all of your audio inputs to make sure it's not coming from there ? Record a blank signal to see what happens. * I have a few soft synths that make noise with too many notes playing or if a passage is too busy. * Some soft synth sounds require more firepower than others * If you are using soft synths try freezing them all to see if it helps. Try it one by one to see if one causes more trouble than others. * It is a process of elimination. Track down every possibility. * If you have a second audio in device try it instead. * Try a song with all audio, try another with all soft synth. * The TTS synth has always been reliable for me. Try that alone. Good Luck. Edited June 13, 2021 by rfssongs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gustabo Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 12 hours ago, jonathan boose said: Yes, I'm using a separate drive for projects. I think it's a fixed speed and it has been working up until now, so I'm not sure what you're getting at. 7200 rpm and defragged? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonathan boose Posted June 13, 2021 Author Share Posted June 13, 2021 11 hours ago, zaquria said: That is not LatencyMon, that is their registry management tool. Download LatencyMon from this direct link and install it: https://www.resplendence.com/download/LatencyMon.exe Thanks, Zaquria. It looks like a corrupted BIOS may be the culprit. I'll check it out after breakfast and report back. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Anderton Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 I helped someone with a similar problem. He was running iZotope Ozone as a plug-in something like 20 tracks. That will bring any system to its knees 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonathan boose Posted June 13, 2021 Author Share Posted June 13, 2021 Funny you should mention that, Craig. I just updated my BIOS and revisited the project. To my dismay, it was still clicking. All the tracks are frozen w/ fx but the busses can't be frozen. I've got (in this case, all Waves) one instance each of SSL bus limiter; Kramer Tape; Abbey Road Chambers; Abbey Road Plates; Torque Stereo; Scheps Omni Channel; and (2) AR TG Mastering. I clicked on 'Torque' and got the blank white box. Tried Scheps and AR TG and got the same. Then I clicked on the SSL limiter and the plugin showed up. So did Kramer Tape. Then I checked again and they all showed up. Then I played the song and there were no clicks. I'll check later to see if I can run a couple of heavy duty soft synths and see if I can lower the buffer rate to the point where I can record without too much of a lag to use the input echo. Thanks for the help, everyone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Vere Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 You should not use input echo to record audio tracks unless your using guitar sims. Use your audio interfaces direct monitoring system. I've heard where you can actually have issues if you use a super high buffer setting. Most folks use around 256. But I think a Lynx is one of the better performers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonathan boose Posted June 13, 2021 Author Share Posted June 13, 2021 3 hours ago, John Vere said: You should not use input echo to record audio tracks unless your using guitar sims. Use your audio interfaces direct monitoring system. I've heard where you can actually have issues if you use a super high buffer setting. Most folks use around 256. But I think a Lynx is one of the better performers. I haven't used 256 in a while. I'll see what I can get away with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gswitz Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 I believe you have an issue you haven't identified that may continue to plague you until you resolve it. I think latency monitor is the best tool for you to do this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonathan boose Posted June 13, 2021 Author Share Posted June 13, 2021 I think you're right, G. Using LatencyMon, Now I get a passing grade for a little while and then it starts to show problems. Not sure how to address this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gswitz Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 (edited) Perfect... now go to the drivers tab, sort descending as I do in my video and tell us which drivers are taking the longest to respond and what the latency is. Then we can advise you what the problem is. Sometimes the drivers aren't obvious, but they often are. The other thing you can do is monitor your system while Latency Monitor is running. What happens when it turns red? A move of your mouse (I had that problem once and had to switch the driver I used with the mouse) or some other thing that happens concurrently? Post the image of the drivers tab so we can see. We need to see the highest execution time in milliseconds. In my video you see dxgkrnl.sys and usbport.sys are the slowest at 0.35 and 0.28 milliseconds respectively. From reading the image, it looks like disabling your network card would be the first thing I'd try. Then re-run LatencyMon and see where you stand. Edited June 13, 2021 by Gswitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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