Zo Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 (edited) Hi guyz , here's my first contact with this exellent release by vertigo sound , deep review including a Q&A with Andy from Vertigo Sound : 00:00:00 Intro / plugin tour 00:03:33 Q&A with Andy from Vertigo Sound 00:05:35 Master Bus (Stereo) : Transformer 00:12:52 Master Bus (Stereo) : Triode (Bass enhancement) 00:17:18 Master Bus (Stereo) : Pentode Hi mid crispness 00:21:01 Clear/Dense effect on beat 00:24:04 Master Bus (M/S) mode 00:28:52 Synth Bass : control of dynamic , punch and transient 00:35:41 Used on Pluck 00:39:24 808 Main beat : Transformer /Dense &Clean /control of reverb tail 00:43:28 Secondary rythm grit ! 00:49:07 A/B Time ! 00:52:54 Conclusion ! Sale price , intro is 149 euros ! https://www.vertigosound.com/products/vsm-4-plugin?state=buy-element Edited May 8, 2021 by Zo 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zo Posted May 7, 2021 Author Share Posted May 7, 2021 Can't help just tried it before sleep ...dammmm this thing got balls , punch , that transformer section is dope !!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grem Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 Looks interesting. Kinda looks like the yellow plugin of theirs. Two different sat flavors you can dial in to taste. Might give this a demo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mibby Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 Maybe I should actually use VSM-3 before looking at this one?? I still love VSC-2 but have never ponied up for the VSC-3 version. It's too bad Vertigo parted ways with Plugin Alliance, because otherwise there might be a chance to get a good deal on these! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zo Posted May 7, 2021 Author Share Posted May 7, 2021 Making you guyz a video on it asap , stay tuned , if you undertsnad this you'll also understand VSM 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Shelby Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 Not to be a stick in the mud, but isn't this contrary to your NDA Zo? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zo Posted May 7, 2021 Author Share Posted May 7, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, cclarry said: Not to be a stick in the mud, but isn't this contrary to your NDA Zo? Why ? Notice video was recored , one hours long , dope , recorder just stoped responding , no way to get recorded material back ..i'm in for another round , hate that , beacsue i lose the spontaneity !! Edited May 7, 2021 by Zo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zo Posted May 8, 2021 Author Share Posted May 8, 2021 Video posted on firts post !! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grem Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 Started watching it here at work. Using Bluetooth audio to the stereo unit here. Not best sounding speakers. But I did like the background you used during the interview. That was really nice. Will watch more when I get home. Catchy little tune your using. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Shelby Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 20 hours ago, Zo said: Why ? Notice video was recored , one hours long , dope , recorder just stoped responding , no way to get recorded material back ..i'm in for another round , hate that , beacsue i lose the spontaneity !! I didn't see it released by PA, so thought it wasn't released...my mistake... I wonder if it would be free upgrade if I got the VSM-3 on sale? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleer Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 As mibby said, Vertigo and PA parted ways, so I guess no upgrades I’m afraid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Shelby Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 7 minutes ago, Fleer said: As mibby said, Vertigo and PA parted ways, so I guess no upgrades I’m afraid. Well, that saved me $14.99 and my $25 voucher! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleer Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 Same here, Larsy, same here. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mibby Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, cclarry said: Well, that saved me $14.99 and my $25 voucher! A total no-brainer deal right there! I would gladly pay that for any of the Vertigo stuff sight unseen if VSC-2 is any indication of the quality. It's still one of my favs. I remember liking VSM-3 fine after I bought it, but never went back with so many simple-to-use and great saturation/distortion plugins around. Now to watch Zo's video and push aside Black Box* and dust off VSM-3... Thanks for the reminder Zo! What a great time to be making music! * Insert any number of other great and easy to use saturation/distortion plugins... ---- Ha! I posted this before reading the forum this morning and look what was just posted by The Man himself! ? They must read this forum... Edited May 8, 2021 by mibby 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mibby Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 (edited) Zo's video at 4:30... VSM 4 has an entirely NEW saturation flavor with a tube emulation instead of FET Transistor and Zener Diode! ? Edited May 8, 2021 by mibby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zo Posted May 8, 2021 Author Share Posted May 8, 2021 4 hours ago, Grem said: Started watching it here at work. Using Bluetooth audio to the stereo unit here. Not best sounding speakers. But I did like the background you used during the interview. That was really nice. Will watch more when I get home. Catchy little tune your using. One of the zillions track i never released lol just the loop not structured lol wanted a girl spitting some glamourous vocals on with jamaican vibes , never did it ... i cover a lot on this one because you can do so much with it ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zo Posted May 8, 2021 Author Share Posted May 8, 2021 By the to clarify , it s not PA at all , and vsm 3 is another flavor ... the fact that PA does the sale now is not cool for vertigo if you ask me , strange behavior from ex partners ... If i had to keep one , it would be the vertigo , simply because like the vsc 3 (the compressor) it really keeps depth , reminds uad plugin versus native , most of time the low and highs is where the differents is ... What surprised me also is that even when drived the transient while mastered are not killed like a lot of unit around ... Another is the transformer !!! You get tubes and transformers and combinaison can be great ... vsm 3 imho is a good complement to this one , and if vsm 4 is too expensive for a guy , it could be a good start ...personnally on the pa offering , i would go black box forst before vsm 3 , easier and with more features ... 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackson white Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 4 hours ago, Zo said: i would go black box forst before vsm 3 , easier and with more features ... have not tried the vertigo vsm3, but was wondering about that given the apparent overlap in features. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zo Posted May 8, 2021 Author Share Posted May 8, 2021 1 hour ago, jackson white said: have not tried the vertigo vsm3, but was wondering about that given the apparent overlap in features. Features are great but also the sound !! Like stated in the video , vsm 4 , like blackbox is tube based , while vsm 3 isnt so you get diff vibes and impact on sounds , blackbox share more in comon imho with vsm 4 than vsm 3 exept just for the workflow ... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antler Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Zo said: Like stated in the video , vsm 4 , like blackbox is tube based , while vsm 3 isnt so you get diff vibes and impact on sounds , blackbox share more in comon imho with vsm 4 than vsm 3 exept just for the workflow ... So the question(s) become - do you prefer the TMT Black Box, or VSM 4? and is the difference between the two big? Edited May 8, 2021 by antler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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