Larry Shelby Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 Rayzoon is offering a 40% discount on its virtual drummer plugin Jamstix 4 (Standard) during the month of March. This sale is specifically geared towards users that have been enjoying the free version of Jamstix 4 but are on the fence about getting the full version. Rayzoon say "At just $59, this is essentially a no-brainer for anyone in need of realistic drum performances in their songs." Get deal at www.rayzoon.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 $59 for what this software can do is an amazing deal. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jude77 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 2 hours ago, Greg said: $59 for what this software can do is an amazing deal. Yes, it is. I have only scratched the surface with this thing and it and give you some great results. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fwrend Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Even if you have EZD & SD3? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msmcleod Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Fwrend said: Even if you have EZD & SD3? Yes. Think of EZD & SD3 as the sounds, and Jamstix as the drummer. Jamstix doesn't use preset patterns - it uses "models" of real drummers. I use Jamstix to drive AD2. The sounds in Jamstix are OK, but not as good as AD2. IMO they're better than SD3 though. [Edit] - A note of caution though... the learning curve for Jamstix is steep. Until you understand how it works and how to leverage it, you won't be blown away by the results... at least not at first. This guy has done a fantastic collection of in-depth tutorials: http://www.djbolivia.ca/videos.html Edited March 12, 2019 by msmcleod 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InstrEd Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 look here for a quick start guide. It is a really neat program. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 (edited) Plus you can use existing MIDI that you like, import it and use that as the basis for Jamstix to add realism. Just needs a little commitment to learn. Also the rayzoon forum is super friendly. Edited March 12, 2019 by Greg 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msmcleod Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 17 minutes ago, Greg said: Plus you can use existing MIDI that you like, import it and use that as the basis for Jamstix to add realism. Just needs a little commitment to learn. Also the rayzoon forum is super friendly. Yeah, that's the way I use it most. I write the MIDI drum part I want, then it plays it like a real drummer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fwrend Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 11 hours ago, msmcleod said: Yes. Thanks for the info guys - didn't want to double up but likewise didn't want to pass up a good deal if it added a niche of it's own in the production process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jude77 Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 14 hours ago, Fwrend said: Thanks for the info guys - didn't want to double up but likewise didn't want to pass up a good deal if it added a niche of it's own in the production process. It is indeed a good deal; but be prepared to spend some time with it. At first I was baffled, but as with most things, the more you work with it the more sense it makes. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Picked this - it's great fun the inbuilt sounds are pretty usable too - I ended up buying some (most!) of the addons too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msmcleod Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 If you find the drums are sounding a bit thin, try adding this: https://kazrog.com/products/true-iron/ It's a transformer emulator that really adds girth to the track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Walton Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Never used the built in sounds. It is a unique tool to create interesting drum parts though. No clue how to get it to actually play an idea I have in my head, but have been able to get a number of parts I've used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msmcleod Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Brian Walton said: Never used the built in sounds. It is a unique tool to create interesting drum parts though. No clue how to get it to actually play an idea I have in my head, but have been able to get a number of parts I've used. The best way to get it to play what you want is to provide it with a MIDI file of just kick & snare. Jamstix will then "paraphrase" your MIDI file in the style of the drummer you choose: Edited March 13, 2019 by msmcleod 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X-53mph Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 does it work a bit like the humanizer in BFD? I used to love that... but haven't got round to investing in the upgrade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msmcleod Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, 53mph said: does it work a bit like the humanizer in BFD? I used to love that... but haven't got round to investing in the upgrade. Not exactly - unlike a humanizer it doesn't just change the timing/velocity of what you give it, but uses it as a basic guide for something new. In other words, it will add hats, cymbals, possibly toms, ghost notes on the snare etc. The rhythm may change in places too. But its "based" on what you give it. Edited March 13, 2019 by msmcleod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X-53mph Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 (edited) thanks msmcleod. Edited March 14, 2019 by 53mph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antler Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 I just downloaded the free version and had a play around; it seems really impressive. On 3/12/2019 at 1:05 AM, msmcleod said: Yeah, that's the way I use it most. I write the MIDI drum part I want, then it plays it like a real drummer I've not used it for long so this is probably a dumb question, but how do I get it to play a drum part that I write? Would I write a basic groove, export it to a MIDI file, and then import it again as a style? If that's the case, would I typically keep it short (e.g. 4 bars); or would I write a full 16 bar verse and use that as the MIDI style? And then do I repeat for the chorus? Sorry for so many questions; just trying to understand how it works Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msmcleod Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Just now, antler said: I just downloaded the free version and had a play around; it seems really impressive. I've not used it for long so this is probably a dumb question, but how do I get it to play a drum part that I write? Would I write a basic groove, export it to a MIDI file, and then import it again as a style? If that's the case, would I typically keep it short (e.g. 4 bars); or would I write a full 16 bar verse and use that as the MIDI style? And then do I repeat for the chorus? Sorry for so many questions; just trying to understand how it works As far as I can remember, either would work (I've not used it for a while either - I've been practicing my "real" drumming). But I tend to keep the groove the same length as the part - so the full 16 bar verse. But this is usually because I've got more complex things going on, like accents in specific places. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antler Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Thanks Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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