Sander Verstraten Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 From the sounds of it, this will also have some real world implications for the customers. We'll probably see once Komplete 13 drops later this year.https://www.musicradar.com/news/native-instruments-co-founder-and-president-step-down-to-make-way-for-a-new-generation-of-leadership 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 interesting - they are moving over to a "Supervisory Board" whatever that means ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Carpenter Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 Interesting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Walton Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 6 hours ago, Sander Verstraten said: From the sounds of it, this will also have some real world implications for the customers. We'll probably see once Komplete 13 drops later this year.https://www.musicradar.com/news/native-instruments-co-founder-and-president-step-down-to-make-way-for-a-new-generation-of-leadership Already in effect. Check the Sennheiser Drum program, new installs as of May require full version to use. After 7 years of being actually free. LAME. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Russ Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 More likely that Sennheiser paid for a set number of authorizations and finally hit that number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
telecode 101 Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 You can't really predict much from corporate mumbo jumbo. There was a rumble that NI may build upon Maschine to make it DAW like and am I def sure they have a new Guitar Rig in the project map. I was part of beta survey. Not sure about other stuff. What might be in K13? - noire - straylight - modular icons and or some of their lame play series. not really enough to entire upgrade IMO. the rest of the stuff is just too new. but who knows. anything is possible. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Walton Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 19 minutes ago, Magic Russ said: More likely that Sennheiser paid for a set number of authorizations and finally hit that number. Senn offers and continues to offer the package for free. It is NI that is blocking the ability to do so, paid or not. Unfortuntly , it would have been nice if Senn just did a stand alone app in the first place. NI doens't exactly bring that much value to the table from an end user perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 46 minutes ago, telecode 101 said: What might be in K13? - noire - straylight - modular icons and or some of their lame play series. not really enough to entire upgrade IMO. the rest of the stuff is just too new. but who knows. anything is possible. picked acoustic ? (which is excellent BTW) not a huge amount to chose from if they are going to do their normal upgrade prices ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antler Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 6 hours ago, Brian Walton said: It is NI that is blocking the ability to do so, paid or not. Are you sure? (I've heard) Player licenses are expensive - maybe they're cutting costs? Or could it be related to the 'legacy' copy protection systems NI are phasing out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Walton Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, antler said: Are you sure? (I've heard) Player licenses are expensive - maybe they're cutting costs? Or could it be related to the 'legacy' copy protection systems NI are phasing out? You mean the licences NI requires a developer to pay to be allowed to use the "player" version? Uh..that is the point....NI has decided it doesn't want to allow Sennheiser to truly make the instrument Free on their platform.....this is on NI. Edited August 14, 2020 by Brian Walton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Batwaffel Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 My belief would be that they are trying to get rid of the ability to crossgrade for free. They've known for a long time that people were doing that and I believe it was intentional for a while but the time has come that they likely want to end it. Especially as more high profile companies are bailing from their Kontakt engine and more samplers are coming out as competition for Kontakt which could cause a shift. They had no real competition for a long time, now we have UVI Workstation and Falcon, SINE, Whatever Spitfire is calling theirs these days, Engine 3 is right around the corner with a massive overhaul, I also have my suspicions we're going to hear about a new sampler by Spectrasonics soon... They are going to want to capitalise as much as possible at this point. It looks like Embertone Arcane is still free but who knows how long that will last for. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleer Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 Welcome, Batwaffel ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Fowler Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 1 hour ago, mister_tea said: My understanding is Komplete includes everything that's been released in the line up until that day, some of it limited to Ultimate. They also sometimes bring previously-ultimate stuff down into the regular version I think? If that trend holds, the stuff included at this point would be (via https://www.native-instruments.com/en/catalog/? Stradivari Violin (it's a violin, suprise!) Session Guitarist Electric Sunburst Deluxe (extended version of Electric Sunbrurst, Les Paul electric guitar) Picked Acoustic as Simon mentions (acoustic guitar) Noire as you mention (piano, supposedly very nice) I forget which version of Komplete I'm on, but I've wanted Noire for a while and am pretty keen to pick up Stradivari at some point. I'm eager for K13 to come out, and more eager for upgrades to be half price! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin H Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 Love Noire... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mánibranðr Studios Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 9 hours ago, Batwaffel said: My belief would be that they are trying to get rid of the ability to crossgrade for free. They've known for a long time that people were doing that and I believe it was intentional for a while but the time has come that they likely want to end it. Especially as more high profile companies are bailing from their Kontakt engine and more samplers are coming out as competition for Kontakt which could cause a shift. They had no real competition for a long time, now we have UVI Workstation and Falcon, SINE, Whatever Spitfire is calling theirs these days, Engine 3 is right around the corner with a massive overhaul, I also have my suspicions we're going to hear about a new sampler by Spectrasonics soon... They are going to want to capitalise as much as possible at this point. It looks like Embertone Arcane is still free but who knows how long that will last for. But that will turn people off from sales. If they want to stay competitive, they should be sweetening the deal for customers, not souring it. If the problem is that people are getting crossgrade pricing for free, the solution would be to keep the libraries Kontakt Player compatible, but also make it so that free Player libraries don't qualify for crossgrade pricing, and make the de-facto price for a full license of Kontakt $249, with crossgrade pricing reduced to $149. The $399 price tag has been a point of contention and complaint for everyone I have known who makes music for a living, and it's what had been turning people off from NI on the whole, and pushing them to look for alternatives. If they want to win customers back, they should make their flagship products more affordable. Especially in this day and age when affording things is more difficult thanks to COVID shutting income down for a lot of people. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antler Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 16 hours ago, Brian Walton said: You mean the licences NI requires a developer to pay to be allowed to use the "player" version? Uh..that is the point....NI has decided it doesn't want to allow Sennheiser to truly make the instrument Free on their platform.....this is on NI. I don't think the recent change in leadership had anything to do with a fee suddenly being charged for a Player license (which in turn caused Sennheiser to stop offering the Player version of their drumkit) - the Player license has been there for a long time (otherwise, there wouldn't have been so many free-but-requires-full-kontakt libraries in the past). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
telecode 101 Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 3 minutes ago, antler said: I don't think the recent change in leadership had anything to do with a fee suddenly being charged for a Player license (which in turn caused Sennheiser to stop offering the Player version of their drumkit) - the Player license has been there for a long time (otherwise, there wouldn't have been so many free-but-requires-full-kontakt libraries in the past). i tried to test the sennheinser drum kit. it only downloads a zip file with bunch of data folders. i tried adding it to Kontakt library and rescanning and no go. anyone know how to get it to load in Kontakt? i tried mapping /users/shared/drummic and well as /users/shared/drummic/data . no luck so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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