Win 10 Users - How to find Audio Bit/Sample rate?

[sadicus]

Win 10 Users - How to find Audio Bit/Sample rate?
without opening quicktime or Cbb, how to find the Bitdepth and sample rate of WAV audio?

[John Bradley]

Don't think you can do it without using some third-party program (e.g. "mediainfo", "ffmpeg", "vlc media player", etc.).

You can make an educated guess, though. Right click, Properties | Details. 

Bit rate will be one of a few common (and unfortunately, not unique) values:

44.1/16bit mono = 705kbps
44.1/16bit stereo = 1410kbps

44.1/24bit mono = 1058kbps
44.1/24bit stereo = 2116kbps

88.2/24bit mono = 2116kbps 
88.2/24bit stereo = 4232kbps

...and so on. 

[bitflipper]

Get MediaInfo here. When installed, it becomes a right-click menu option, very convenient. Tells you pretty much everything that can be determined by the file contents alone, including metadata for mp3/flac and bit depth, sample rate and channel count for wav files.

 

[sadicus]

Thanks for the confirmation, just wanted to make sure there wasn't a simple OS solution. VLC Player will work.

in Details it did show "768kbs" ~ thanks for the chart!

I like RC menus, thanks for that, MediaInfo works great!

 

Edited June 16, 2020 by sadicus

[bitflipper]

There is a simple native solution: look at enough of them long enough and you reach a point where you can recognize them right away.  Kind of like how electronics techs can read resistor values at a glance without actually decoding the colored stripes. 

Also consider downloading a copy of foobar2000. Has a lot of handy features.

 

[Bill Phillips]

On 6/16/2020 at 5:58 PM, bitflipper said:

Get MediaInfo here. When installed, it becomes a right-click menu option, very convenient. Tells you pretty much everything that can be determined by the file contents alone, including metadata for mp3/flac and bit depth, sample rate and channel count for wav files.

 

On my Android phone this link sends me to TicTok. Nevermind my mistake.

Edited June 19, 2020 by Bill Phillips
Correction

[Bill Phillips]

On 6/16/2020 at 6:01 PM, bitflipper said:

There is a simple native solution: look at enough of them long enough and you reach a point where you can recognize them right away.  Kind of like how electronics techs can read resistor values at a glance without actually decoding the colored stripes. 

Also consider downloading a copy of foobar2000. Has a lot of handy features.

 

Do you use the Perfect Tunes, CD Ripper or MP3 Converter apps?

[Robert Bone]

(Edited - DOH - I just reread the initial post for this thread, and just now caught that you wanted to get that info outside of CbB.  Sorry.  I will leave this, in case the info below helps someone else.  I recall manually calculating that info based on whatever info I had available, but it was a pain, and ever since finding out that the info displayed at the bottom of the CbB Media Browser, that is now where I go for seeing that info).

Well, there is a super simple way - in Cakewalk, make sure the Browser Pane is open, then click on the Media Browser tab, and navigate to the file you are trying to determine sample rate and bit depth for, and click on that file, and that information will be displayed at the bottom of the Media Browser window in the Browser Pane.

Please note - when you click on an audio file in the Media Browser, it will autoplay and you might want to click on the square 'stop playback' button on the right side of the Media Browser window - I just blasted out a great guitar solo, because I had forgotten it starts playback (more like payback if I had clicked on a file of me singing).

Anyways, here is a screen shot, showing the Media Browser, and down at the bottom, for the file I had clicked on, you see the sample rate and bit-depth for the audio file:

Edited June 18, 2020 by Robert Bone
I confessed to not catching that the OP wanted to get the info outside of CbB, DOH! :)

[StudioNSFW]

On 6/16/2020 at 3:01 PM, bitflipper said:

  Kind of like how electronics techs can read resistor values at a glance without actually decoding the colored stripes. 

 

 

Any one else remember the incredibly inappropriate and offensive acrostic to remember the values of the color bands.?

[Bill Phillips]

10 hours ago, Robert Bone said:

(Edited - DOH - I just reread the initial post for this thread, and just now caught that you wanted to get that info outside of CbB.  Sorry.  I will leave this, in case the info below helps someone else.  I recall manually calculating that info based on whatever info I had available, but it was a pain, and ever since finding out that the info displayed at the bottom of the CbB Media Browser, that is now where I go for seeing that info).

Well, there is a super simple way - in Cakewalk, make sure the Browser Pane is open, then click on the Media Browser tab, and navigate to the file you are trying to determine sample rate and bit depth for, and click on that file, and that information will be displayed at the bottom of the Media Browser window in the Browser Pane.

Please note - when you click on an audio file in the Media Browser, it will autoplay and you might want to click on the square 'stop playback' button on the right side of the Media Browser window - I just blasted out a great guitar solo, because I had forgotten it starts playback (more like payback if I had clicked on a file of me singing).

Anyways, here is a screen shot, showing the Media Browser, and down at the bottom, for the file I had clicked on, you see the sample rate and bit-depth for the audio file:

Thanks for the reminder. Another good reason for using the media browser to load tracks.

[bitflipper]

10 hours ago, StudioNSFW said:

Any one else remember the incredibly inappropriate and offensive acrostic to remember the values of the color bands.?

That's actually how I initially learned them circa 1973. In a classroom, from my ultra-conservative instructor.

[bitflipper]

14 hours ago, Bill Phillips said:

Do you use the Perfect Tunes, CD Ripper or MP3 Converter apps?

No. I generally avoid free utilities, especially file-conversion apps, because they are so often laden with hidden payloads.

I have a virus that's been on my computer for two years that I'm pretty sure hitched a ride on a video conversion utility. It's a really sneaky one that no anti-virus, anti-spyware or rootkit identifier tool has been able to identify. The symptom is a page popping up in Chrome advertising online gambling, porn or Indian support scams. I switched to Brave as my default browser to get rid of it.

Between Foobar2000 and Adobe Audition I have all the CD-ripper and file conversion capabilities I need.

[RobertWS]

11 hours ago, StudioNSFW said:

Any one else remember the incredibly inappropriate and offensive acrostic to remember the values of the color bands.?

Bad  Black 0

Boys Brown 1

Rap@ Red 2  (Edited to get past auto censor)

Our Orange 3

Young  Yellow 4

Girls Green 5

But Blue 6

Violet Violet 7

Gives  Gray 8

Willingly   White 9

Edited June 18, 2020 by RobertWS

[Robert Bone]

1 hour ago, bitflipper said:

No. I generally avoid free utilities, especially file-conversion apps, because they are so often laden with hidden payloads.

I have a virus that's been on my computer for two years that I'm pretty sure hitched a ride on a video conversion utility. It's a really sneaky one that no anti-virus, anti-spyware or rootkit identifier tool has been able to identify. The symptom is a page popping up in Chrome advertising online gambling, porn or Indian support scams. I switched to Brave as my default browser to get rid of it.

Between Foobar2000 and Adobe Audition I have all the CD-ripper and file conversion capabilities I need.

 

You can uninstall Chrome, and install it again.  I did that on a friend's computer, for one of those hidden nightmares. That did the trick. Easy enough to try, in any case.

 

[bitflipper]

Good idea, thanks. However, I think I'll uninstall Chrome and leave it gone. Brave looks and works like Chrome, even supports Chrome extensions, blocks tracking cookies, and preserves anonymity by using DuckDuckGo as its search engine. It even seems to perform a little snappier. If you actually like ads, you can enable them and get paid for watching them.

As for what's wrong with Firefox...it used to be my go-to browser until they went through a rough period of nasty bugs and daily fix releases. That's when I switched to Chrome, which had the advantage of running a little faster. I just wanted reliable software, and wasn't thinking back then about Google tracking my every move.

I do, however, still use Thunderbird as my email client.

[bitflipper]

Brave, I think, is not open-source. It is built on the Chrome API, which is not open-source like Firefox. That allows it to run all the Chrome extensions, but because it lacks a mechanism for vetting them, any time you install one it shows a scary warning about how they can't verify it's legit. 

[Robert Bone]

5 hours ago, pwalpwal said:

and what, may i ask, is wrong with firefox??

I don't believe I stated that I switched to Brave, as I had never heard of it, so how it has me quoted as saying I had, does not compute.

And, my comment about uninstalling and reinstalling Chrome, was only regarding the potential for that process getting rid of a pesky virus that only showed itself when a Chrome instance was launched.

Have a blast with whichever browser you like,  be that Firefox, Chrome, Brave, Not So Brave, etc....

[Robert Bone]

4 hours ago, pwalpwal said:

any chrome extensions that don;t have a ff equivalent? (you may have noticed i'm not a chrome fan lol)

Yup, I had sensed that... 

[bitflipper]

Chrome has more extensions available than any other browser. But there are some that are specific to Firefox. I used to use a video capture plugin with Firefox that was better than anything on Chrome. It could download YouTube videos. Chrome was never going to allow that, since they and YT have the same parent company. Eventually, YT flexed its muscles and got every video downloader to exempt YouTube, including FF.

[John Bradley]

6 minutes ago, bitflipper said:

I used to use a video capture plugin with Firefox that was better than anything on Chrome. It could download YouTube videos. Chrome was never going to allow that, since they and YT have the same parent company. Eventually, YT flexed its muscles and got every video downloader to exempt YouTube, including FF.

And that's why I run "Waterfox Classic" as an alterative browser. It's a fork from an older version of FF before the Great Breaking of all the Plugins, and as such can still run all the old Plugins, most notably "FlashGot" — which lets you download videos from all sorts of websites, as well as YouTube.