Matthew Sorrels Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 All of the Zero-G libraries have been re-released by Zero-G without being Kontakt Player Instruments. So they now require the full version of Kontakt and aren't authorized libraries anymore. I assume if you had any of them from when they were full on Kontakt Player libraries you would have to get Zero-G to give you the new version and would be required to have full Kontakt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 Maybe Zero-G and Best Service will help out here. I have lot's of Libs from them. Let's see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Belled Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 And THAT is why I refuse to buy anything that requires permission from the maker to be used. This is ridiculous! R 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinny Hastrup Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 3 hours ago, Lemar Sain said: I hate to say it....but the crack/ware scene is going get some new traffic soon. Sad part is, from a lot of legit users. That has always been the case. I know many legit hard cash paying users so fed up with the dongles or stupid restrictions that they use audioz instead of the real deal just to be free to make music and not fight with tech. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cristian Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 Now THIS is one HELL of a deal. ? Looks like NI wants to encourage the sailing of the seven seas.?☠️ Or maybe it's just part of their cost cutting strategy since they no longer make money off these, still wonder why they didn't port Pro-53/B4 to newer tech. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antler Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 I'm surprised about some of them, e.g. Chris Hein Horns; I could be wrong, but that doesn't have a more modern version does it? (meaning some people will completely lose their instrument with no way to upgrade to a working version) I wonder if this has something to do with NI's subscription plan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulo Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 Just when you thought that it really wasn't possible for NI support to be any crappier........ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Jones Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 Why is Battery 4 on that list? I don't believe there's even a Battery 5. Are they closing out Battery all together? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antler Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 Are you sure? from the OP, it looks like it's: Battery, Battery 2, Battery Studio Drums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Russ Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 I got on the bandwagon with Komplete 5, and the only things I have from their list are B4 II and Pro-53, neither of which I use. I can understand them not wanting to support all of these, as they are things that haven't been updated in ten years or so. What I don't understand is why they aren't supporting the older 3rd party Kontakt libraries. That doesn't look like a big effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Sorrels Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 It's not the current Chris Hein Horns, it's the original first volumes. Anything that uses the old NI Service Center for an authorization. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Jones Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 3 hours ago, antler said: Are you sure? from the OP, it looks like it's: Battery, Battery 2, Battery Studio Drums Well it says this in the OP: B4 Native Instruments B4 II Native Instruments Bandstand Native Instruments Battery Native Instruments Battery 2 Native Instruments ----- Why B4? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Jones Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 Why is Battery 3 not on that list but Battery 4 is? I know some people prefer B3 over B4 but it's not like NI would give a f about that.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Sorrels Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 B4 and B4 II are NI's old organ VSTs, not Battery 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Jones Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 Just now, Matthew Sorrels said: B4 and B4 II are NI's old organ VSTs, not Battery 4. Ah I see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Promidi Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 11 hours ago, Reid Rosefelt said: Brings back memories of my Lifetime Subscription to Sonar Platinum. ☹️ Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grem Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 Reading this, I feel for those that are affected. I would be P. O'd. I only have one thing by NI, GR5. I rarely use it, though it is a good sim. Not sure I want to deal with NI either. Just doesn't look/feel right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy1 Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 The EW libraries, B4, Pro 53 are still valued. The rest would tick me off if I wanted to break out my Athlon XP hardware and run Windows 2000. I still have those Garritan box sets. It's annoying to see those cluttering Native Access as if it weren't annoying enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vernon Barnes Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 B4 is the only one I have on this list. It was good but I never use it now as I avoid 32 bit plugins. My disappointment with NI was long ago when they stopped supporting it. GSI's VB3 is better and its my goto now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Sorrels Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 This thread (a very good thread to read) on the NI forum talks about an early version of Spitfire's bespoke library using just a serial number for authorization inside Kontakt and it not working https://www.native-instruments.com/forum/threads/ni-stop-activations-on-legacy-libraries.376981/page-2 EvilDragon says this: Quote Thomas Helzle said: ↑ Isn't that basically just a serial number that needs to be "maintained" as in being recognised by Native Access? It's not. Serial number is just a gateway into challenge-response activation scheme, it requires an activation server to provide authorization keys based on your hardware ID. Those sample libraries from that list were initially released as standalone plugins (Kompakt/Intakt branded plugins, this was before Kontakt Player, way over 10 years ago, closer to 15 years now). Not sure that's so good for you Larry. ? Maybe you'll be spared, but it sure sounds like the serial number is fed into a challenge-response system. The truth is that any challenge-response based copy protection system can and will go offline. Unless it's just a serial number or something stored 100% in a dongle, when the company stops issuing responses, your product will no longer be re-installable. For me this list of things NI is killing is a at least a thousand dollars worth of stuff. Sadly it's not even close to most I've lost because of companies not continuing to run authorization servers (Autodesk is still winning that by about $2-3k) Given the state of software products I don't see this one changing into something I like anytime soon. More likely it will lead to more and more subscription products, rather than companies going with copy protection that can survive the company going out of business/shutting-down. But I love software to much to avoid products just because their copy protection isn't ideal. I would have still bought all these products had I been told that in 2020 they were going to off line the authorization server. I do think NI could have done better though. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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