Zo Posted January 17, 2020 Posted January 17, 2020 https://fr.audiofanzine.com/surface-de-controle-motorisee/waves/midiplus/news/a.play,n.47125.html gas officially on 2 1
smallstonefan Posted January 17, 2020 Posted January 17, 2020 I've got a Faderport 16 but I love to see competition like this. No one has made the perfect controller yet but things are getting good. A few more competitive iterations and we might be there...
TerraSin Posted January 17, 2020 Posted January 17, 2020 (edited) I nearly spit out my drink when the guy at NAMM said it was going to be $1200. Just watching the video of it, the motors in the faders are terrible. Not smooth, too much bounce. Signs of cheap mechanical parts that won't last very long. Edited January 17, 2020 by TerraSin 1
RSMcGuitar Posted January 17, 2020 Posted January 17, 2020 (edited) Whoa... I thought it looked nice but then, you say HoW MuCh?? Also, apparently it's just for eMotion LV1. So no DAW integration at all. Edited January 17, 2020 by RSMcGuitar
simon Posted January 17, 2020 Posted January 17, 2020 1 hour ago, TerraSin said: $1200 (gasp !) wait a couple of weeks and it should be down to $29 2 6
Grem Posted January 17, 2020 Posted January 17, 2020 This is geared for users of WAves Studio Grid, is wat it looks like to me. No DAW integration. Made to be used with the Emo/SoundGrid setup for live mixing.
Zo Posted January 17, 2020 Author Posted January 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Grem said: This is geared for users of WAves Studio Grid, is wat it looks like to me. No DAW integration. Made to be used with the Emo/SoundGrid setup for live mixing. Investigating , orice is fair when you compare to avid artist witch is still great by the way ...
Sergio Posted January 17, 2020 Posted January 17, 2020 6 hours ago, TerraSin said: I nearly spit out my drink when the guy at NAMM said it was going to be $1200. Just watching the video of it, the motors in the faders are terrible. Not smooth, too much bounce. Signs of cheap mechanical parts that won't last very long. This certainly does not sounds like a must-have no-brainer game-changer control surface ? 1
Matthew Sorrels Posted January 17, 2020 Posted January 17, 2020 Is the software that this will control this? https://www.waves.com/mixers-racks/emotion-lv1-16-channels#emotion-lv1-live-mixer-v11-update It's $1300 for just the software? For only 16 channels? 1
simon Posted January 17, 2020 Posted January 17, 2020 16 minutes ago, Matthew Sorrels said: It's $1300 for just the software? For only 16 channels? $29 in all seriousness it's a different market - I think its' a little unfair to apply the same pricing rules as we do to a simple "mass market" plugin ?
Grem Posted January 17, 2020 Posted January 17, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, Matthew Sorrels said: For only 16 channels? From the videos I watched, it looks like the system is capable of 64 channels. But that is with a SoundGrid server. And I don't know if the server has A/D converters in it. [edit] No it does not come with converters. That's another expense. And you will still need a PC to work with it too. Oh, and it can use up to four touch screens at the same time. All examples I saw was with two. So the way it looks to me is, if (and a mighty big if!) the venue your going to mix at has a SoundGrid setup, then all you would need to bring to it is you touch screens (and/or the FIT) and your laptop. Another way to look at it is $$$$ Edited January 17, 2020 by Grem
e-cue Posted January 17, 2020 Posted January 17, 2020 After the Waves APA disaster years ago, I ain't touching any waves hardware based stuff with Lars' dongle. 1
Zo Posted January 17, 2020 Author Posted January 17, 2020 1 hour ago, e-cue said: After the Waves APA disaster years ago, I ain't touching any waves hardware based stuff with Lars' dongle. APA ?
Grem Posted January 17, 2020 Posted January 17, 2020 45 minutes ago, Zo said: APA ? I was going to ask the same thing.
Zo Posted January 18, 2020 Author Posted January 18, 2020 2 hours ago, Grem said: I was going to ask the same thing. DSP like the grid back then ....looks so old
John Bohlen Posted January 18, 2020 Posted January 18, 2020 I knew I was missing something... software faders. ? 1
e-cue Posted January 19, 2020 Posted January 19, 2020 On 1/17/2020 at 3:05 PM, Grem said: I was going to ask the same thing. https://www.soundonsound.com/reviews/waves-apa-32 Basically, their version of a UAD Satellite, or external DSP. They abruptly dropped support after overpromising it for a while. You could run like 5 IR-1's on it before it choked up, depending on the model. They dropped support of it, and promised to support it later one but it never happened, leaving users with doorstops. I had a client with at least 5 of them (they were like $1,400 each at the time)- to this day he refuses to use any Waves product because of this. This includes the users that had WUP and expected updates because they were, uhm, paying for them.
Grem Posted January 19, 2020 Posted January 19, 2020 2 hours ago, e-cue said: They abruptly dropped support after overpromising it for a while. You could run like 5 IR-1's on it before it choked up, depending on the model. They dropped support of it, and promised to support it later one but it never happened, leaving users with doorstops. That would have been the end for me too. I didn't know about this. Though I do think I remember something about it vaguely, didn't know the details. Now I can understand some of the negativity when talk of Waves comes around. Not a good way to treat customers.
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