Rickddd

Please view this topic concerning sonar autosave feature:

I hear ya. I've done the same thing... frequent CTRL-S plus my songs can have a couple of hundred sequential files, e.g., songname1.cwp, songname2.cwp etc. Still, even though I'm VERY diligent about quick manual saves, statistically, there have been times when my mind was "in the zone" and Murphy's law took effect. There's almost nothing I hate as much as having to redo work I painsakingly just did minutes ago. The good news is this: @msmcleod's suggestion in his post above works beautifully. I set mine at 5 minutes and zero events. I still do my manual saves, but msmcleods method provides a 2nd safety net to catch me. CAKEWALK: This autosave issue has been around for years. Time to fix. There has to be thousands of users that struggle with this not knowing WTF is going on.

In preferences, file > advanced you can specify an auto-save like: auto-save every [x] minutes or [y] changes. Here's my question. When I use this feature I see sonar auto-save maybe every 30 seconds (just appx, never really measured it) no matter what I put in those blocks. For example, I recently tried: auto-save every 21 minutes or 89 changes. And it kicks into auto-save every few actions that I perform. As I have to fast system that saves to a SSD so I live with it, but it is annoying. Real annoying. And keep in mind saving to a SSD wears it. It's not free. This is not an issue just with cakewalk sonar, its been this way in previous versions. Am I doing something wrong or interpreting teh auto-save settings wrong?

I don't mean to hurt any feelings of the cake bakers, but I've thought since day 1 of the the new sonar that the Bandlab free version was WAY easier on the eyes. Yeah, its a little boxy, but my eyes went "ah....." as I worked with it. The new sonar, as much as I like a lot about it, my eyes goes "yikes..." I've seen so many updates that listed "improved colors" and maybe they were, but they were improvements to color schemes and visual design (to my eyes) that fundamentally fell short of what cakewalk bandlab had achieved from the git-go. I get it - the bakers needed to distinguish it from the free version, but at what cost? I'd PAY to have my cake and eat it too... And as someone mentioned here above, the small check-marks and symbols don't help matters any. Again, let me state that I'm a fan of CW... been using it since Cakewalk Studio a dozen years ago. But the current visual design.... sucks. New colors alone are not going to make it as easy on the eyes as the prior version. And just to be clear..., and maybe its just me, every time I open it up I think "ah... I miss the good old days". I feel giving those of us that feel this way an option to revert visually to what once as would strengthen product loyalty. Just my 2 cents.

When I went back to the previous day, all was well. When I looked at the 5 or so files from the same project of the current day, they were all buggered the same way (even though on screen things looked fine at the time of "save-as"). Those 5 or so files were the result of various "save as" actions. I hadn't opened any of them when I did the "save as", which I did for protection. Note that the "auto saves" during the current day were also buggered. Thankfully, I have now manually put humphy-dumpty together again, and it seems to be holding. Thanks for asking.

I tried to send two of them, but they (even singly) exceed the boards limit of 4.88 mb. I tried zipping.. but not enough. I asked Jonathan for help on what to do.

I will send it. Note that I did not open the file in any older sonar version. Rick

This happened a couple times to me a year or two ago when I changed over from Bandlab to Sonar by Bandlab. I happily had not seen it again until now. What happens is this... all of a sudden, after a "save as", the next time I open that up, all the individual tracks hop out of their assigned track folders (e.g., guitar, keyboards, vocals...). The track folders that were once used are still there, but are now emptied. See image attached. Note: The top two tracks "Verse" and "Chorus" were never in track folders. The rest of teh tracks were spread in the track folders you see in the image. Now they are in just teh guitar folder. Also, this is a new project which was started in Sonar in the last week or two. If I'm somehow doing this by accident.. I doubt it but who knows... visual studio (programming software) has a cool feature to protect from accidentally moving a bunch of files into a folder... it detects if there is an excessive amount of relocations into a folder and pauses to warn the user "are you sure?". I know when I posted about this a year or two ago no one else experienced this. Maybe the same this time. ??? I install all the updates to Sonar as they are released. I am on Win pro, 32GB, I-9700. Any thoughts?

Thank you for weighing in because I was able to install .06 that way. There's still a follow-on issue - the 11MB prochannel won't install. No error message, just never installs. I did try to install it as well from the CPC. But I got that new .06 version and that is great. THANKS!

I tried to upgrade my 2025.05 to the new .06. The error message I immediately get is "Requires Cakewalk Sonar Version 2025.05". But that is the one I have. On thing that may have initiated this is I saw a 11MB prochannel update that I installed first. Maybe that screwed things up. Help.

A week or two ago's update introduced, for me at least, a slightly erratic FX dropdown behavior that is starting to give me a headache. I used to program drop down menu's like the ones that Sonar uses, and it appears to me that the timing has been adjusted. That is, how long the FX menu stays down before it takes action to reconfigure. Normally, a drop down menu should adjust quickly, but not so quickly as to be instant. If it's too quick, then even the slightest miss pointing of the mouse causes the dropped-down menu to snap back. Since the last update, it's instant. As a result, it takes a lot more effort to navigate the menu. A lot of times I now have to "try again" to get the menu choice I desire. At first I thought it was just me, but nah... something definitely has been "adjusted" menu timing wise. Just thought I'd mention and hopefully this will be taken care of in the next update.

Thank you. I've tried to delete the intervening space, but I was not adding the Ripple Delete "magic sauce". Yum!!!!! Thank you so much Bristol!!!!!

Help. I really don't use arranger tracks. Is there any other way to fix it such that when I select "fit project" it will fill the pane with the actual project width wise instead of crunching it because of something out in the distant right which was never purposely put there. Showing my years here, but I did not have this issue way back in my sonar studio/platinum era. I'm sure there's an easy way to do it or I am doing something wrong. I hope! Any thoughts?

Thank you for showing how to fix this. I now have mine unchecked. I felt that the resizing feature was not intuitive. Love a lot about Sonar but that was one feature I found decreased rather than increased my mixing efficiency. It certainly was annoying. But happy happy happy now!

Thanks David, but I've tried as many variations as I could think of, with the same results. As a BTW, exporting audio out of Bandlab sonar still works fine. Thanks for suggesting however. Much appreciated.

Below is an example. I typed in smith.wav, and you can see what it turns into. Rick

A month or two ago I noticed my exported audio file names are automatically appended an underscore, e.g., smith__.wav instead of smith.wav. I figured this is some kind of default setting that came in on some Sonar update, but I can't seem to find where to undo it. Can anyone help? It's a minor thing I know but after the 1000 time renaming the file after export it starts to add up the wasted time... I probably caused it, but it would be great to get rid of it. Thank, Rick

I've been using Sonar since the before times, and up to last year I never would have plunked down money for the full Kontakt, for the same reasons. Then... with the help of a friend, I discovered that there is a world of 3rd party instruments that ONLY the full Kontakt will play. Now that I discovered this, it's opened up a new world for me instruments wise.

"Did you ever know that you're my hero And everything I would like to be? I can fly higher than an eagle For you are the wind beneath my wings" Bette Midler said it far better than I could ever say it. Thank you @Xoo!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'd like to do something that I'm confident I was able to do way back in original sonar days, but don't know how to in Cakewalk Sonar or Cakewalk bandlab. 3 scenarios... scenario #3 is the head scratcher for me. 1. With sonar running, On a track, with the record buttons engaged and monitoring turned on I can happily hear my guitar playing live. Works! 2.On a track, with sonar sitting still and the track record button engaged and monitor engaged, I can happily hear my guitar playing live. Works! 3. With sonar running, On a track, with the record button NOT engaged and monitoring turned on I can no longer hear from guitar. The head scratching part is that as best I remember, years ago I could do #3. And without #3 if I want to practice a part, I have to do some "fake recordings" to hear myself. All advice welcome! Rick

Ever since I started using Cakewalk Sonar over Freebee Bandlab, I've run into one issue on rare occasions. Perhaps I've been using the new Cakewalk for some 6 months. What I am about to describe has happened maybe 3 or 4 times in that 6 month period. Note that I am an avid user, and I am on Sonar mixing etc probably 5 days a week. What happens is this: After setting up track folders and using them with delight, all of a sudden and with no apparent reason, all the tracks move to a single track folder. In each instance, the issue was not observed while I was using the project, until I reopened it. Maybe I'm accidentally putting them in (if that is possible it would be nice to have a prompt that warns multiple tracks are about to be moved.) I would add that it is always an "all" affair - that is - never just a few or many tracks moved. They all are moved into a single track folder. Note that once the "transformation" is done, and saved, opening the project again does not fix it. It is locked in that position. When I open a file that has been so saved in bandlab cakewalk, it also opens with everything in the same track. Any thoughts?

Oh that's terrible! Question: is this a fact or conjecture?

I would like to thank those wizards in the sky who fixed the problem. I am whole again. Working perfectly this morning.

Thanks for the, but no joy. In fact, in the last 2-3 days, I: 1. rebooted several times 2. Upgraded to win 11 3. Did the sign in attempts with two different browsers, Chrome and Firefox. During these tests I set the browser as a windows default. 4. Made sure my VPN was off None of the above had any impact. When I click to sign in (with my user/pw in place), I get the error reported in my original post. Don't think I changed any settings. Rick

For the last few days, when I fire up Cakewalk sonar, I get a "signed out session" warning. When I go to sign in, it brings up this error: { "errorCode": 406, "message": "You've made too many requests. Please, try again later." } I don't know why it gave me this. Help. Rick