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Thanks! I post it in the songs as well. By the way the not mastered version is already very low in volume, you can barely hear it, the master volume track is not clipping, but the drums track is indeed clipping a bit breaking the -6db, but if i low down the drums fader I will have to low down the rest as well making it even lower. Im afraid I wont be able to hear the non mastered version.

The master volume is low and not clipping, but the drums tracks is clipping breaking the -6db, if I put down the drums volume not to clip, I will have to low down the rest as well making it even lower. it’s clipping in the distorted part at around 3min

Hi there I just mixed one of my songs, I'm quite a newbie and self learner and I really need some feedback from more expert people. Please consider I did the bass track with a guitar pitch shifter just temporary, I don't have a bass yet, I will do it properly later so don't comment the bass please. I made the drums with NI Studio Drummer Plugin. Can someone tell me how it sounds? is there something I should improve? Does the drums sound realistic? I'm mostly worried about the clipping and hotness of the mix, also about the EQing, I simply did a high pass and low pass on the guitars, didn't go to search for the other unwanted frequencies doing cuts etc. So I'm not sure whether some guitar frequencies are covering other drums frequencies and so on, I'm not sure how to do that I'm simply using the EQ in Cakewalk that you add on each track, I'm notable just by listening to understand what . consider this is a non mastered version yet. Despite the general audio is kept quite low as you can hear, the drums is clipping a little bit in yellow, not over 0 anyway, cause I put some compression on it LINK: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1GU9AfdSObDnP-YOBW0hb4JOC6IP1Y3dF/view?usp=sharing

I posted in NI forum, very strange, might be the latency? If no solution is provided by NI forum can I fix it by hand? I mean splitting the two stereo audios and just dragging a track afew millisecond so they match?

How did you do that? I use NI Studio Drummer plugin for drums programming. It is stereo indeed, that’s how it should be no? So you can pan the different drums toms left and right. But with the kick and snare centered.

Anyway thanks for the tips. I will keep the EQ high pass cut at around 90, I guess should be fine

You are definitely right, but then the same concept should be valid also when you play live, I honestly never heard someone saying you should put the guitar bass on the amp at minimum when playing in a band. Also there might be some parts when there’s only electric guitar playing in the song, and in that moment it will sound quite thin I guess

Hi there one question, I'm using TH-U amps for my electric guitars sound, I'm using the Plexi Marshall and it's perfect but it's missing some bass/boost, so I added an EQ and set it up as you can see in the photo below, increasing the low frequencies, now I like the sound it's perfect by itself. Then when playing the song all together with drums and bass, everyone recommends to cut the low frequencies of the guitars to leave those lows for the Bass and take out that "mud", so then I cut the lows on the guitar bus EQ at around frequency 90 (photo below) Does this make any sense to you? I mean, I'm using a Plexi Marshall TH-U cause I love the timbre, but I like it to be boosted a bit like the JCM800, so I increase the lows to make it sound like I want, but then I cut those lows after in the bus EQ to make space for the Bass??? I'm not a big fan of this cutting guitar lows to be honest even if everyone says it must be done, I mean I want my guitars to be fat! Any suggestion? what should I do? should I remove the EQ in TH-U at this point?

Hi there one question, I'm using TH-U amps for my electric guitars sound, I'm using the Plexi Marshall and it's perfect but it's missing some bass/boost, so I added an EQ and set it up as you can see in the photo below, increasing the low frequencies, now I like the sound it's perfect by itself. Then when playing the song all together with drums and bass, everyone recommends to cut the low frequencies of the guitars to leave those lows for the Bass and take out that "mud", so then I cut the lows on the guitar bus EQ at around frequency 90 (photo below) Does this make any sense to you? I mean, I'm using a Plexi Marshall TH-U cause I love the timbre, but I like it to be boosted a bit like the JCM800, so I increase the lows to make it sound like I want, but then I cut those lows after in the bus EQ to make space for the Bass??? I'm not a big fan of this cutting guitar lows to be honest even if everyone says it must be done, I mean I want my guitars to be fat! Any suggestion? what should I do? should I remove the EQ in TH-U at this point?

I would like the kick to be like in this record, it sounds quite high, I guess depends from the genre https://envy.bandcamp.com/track/swaying-leaves-and-scattering-breath

35 Millisecons after? what? this is strange, how can be possible?

Thanks! Well I made everything on my own, with just a pc, an audio interface and a guitar, that’s it. I have anyway did some more EQ to my drum tracks, decreased the cymbals and I put the hihat higher. I will check the song forum then.

Ah thanks a lot for the honesty! Indeed as I said I'm not a drummer, I just needed a drummer telling me this sucks! Anyway I don't do normal pop rock, I make Post-Rock, Post-hardcore stuff, so quite different style. So if you were imagining a normal zumpappazumpappazumpappa with a crash once in a while that's not my thing. But you are not referring to the crash volume right? I suppose you are referring to the way it's played, less crashes? I did put lots of crashes in the chaotic part, to make it sound a bit more chaotic, too much maybe? Have you heard the solo drum part or the whole song with the other instruments? Usually in very slow parts I keep the tempo with crashes or ride, to feel that emptiness between a kick and a snare.

I based myself on a record I like, and since I will have the bass quite high in volume, it will partially eat the kick so I raised it a bit. I can put down the volume a bit anyway. Thanks a lot

Not sure what you mean with center the kick ? it's not panned left or right, it's in the center.

Thanks for the advice, consider there is no Hihat in this drum part at all, maybe just ones in a while. Btw to me the cymbals volume here is a bit lower than the kick and the snare, should be less? Here's the whole song preview for you, it's already mastered but not definitive, I have to record it with a real bass here I use a shifter for guitar plugin. I know there is too much reverb on the distorted part on guitars which I already removed btw. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1VcY4ISXdpF7N_I0RFO9SGCxiSrJ162r1/view?usp=sharing

Hi there, I'm not a drummer or a pro sound engineer, I'm a guitar player, and I have made the drums track with NI Studio Drummer programming plugin, now I'm not sure how a good "real" drums should sound. Here's a sample of my drums track, could someone please tell me how it sounds to you? is it enough realistic? What should I improve? Is it too dry or unbound, or too much reverb? I guess not being a drummer doesn't help me, I would need an advice from a drummer or someone who recorded drums for a while and knows how real drums should sound in a good pro mix, thanks a lot! Ah I specify I don't want my drums to sound metal, neither jazz or low fi, I'm playing post rock so big deep sound and quite modern feel would be just fine, generally like this I like it. Here's the link: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1RQGt9G9j9w57yjemvS9xwZOMulmt35zX/view?usp=sharing

Ok, anyway at the end I have raised quite a bit the THU guitar reverb directly from the different tracks, this because the THU reverb has a very typical guitar amp reverb, while the general bus reverb plugin is more like a HALL, ROOM, or ORCHESTRA, kind of reverb, and it hase way too many kinds of reverbs set up. I have anyway kept also the bus reverb one on all guitars only on clean parts, it sounds good to be but I cannot identify with my ears any "mud" , maybe there is I don't know I'm not a pro So at the end I put reverb on guitar tracks and on the general bus You can give a listen and tell me if it sounds good to you? would be of great help, also if you have any other suggestion, this track is already mastered but still work in progress. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1VcY4ISXdpF7N_I0RFO9SGCxiSrJ162r1/view?usp=sharing

Do you mean reverb level just under the send? I didn't check that to be honest just noticed, I have just tried to balance it from the reverb bus volume, not from send, indeed.

@bitflipper I get what you are saying, since I'm not a sound engineer and I just self-learned these things on my own, I'm missing an opinion from en expert indeed. I guess we could speak a lot but at the end only our ears count, I think I might give up and give you a preview of my song ( it's an already mastered sample but with fake bass, I need to record it with a real bass later) it's still work in progress, anyway if you could give me a suggestion if the amount of reverb sounds fine to you or too much muddy, and if anything else you would suggest I can improve would be of great help, thanks a lot, hope you like it. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1VcY4ISXdpF7N_I0RFO9SGCxiSrJ162r1/view?usp=sharing

@lapasoa In fact I kind of agree with you! I use THU for my guitars, which has very good and typical guitars reverb, so in the clean guitar tracks I put a lot of reverb directly in there. But someone says that is not great to have one reverb for each track because the various reverbs could overlap and make some "mud" in the sound, so they suggest to put one send reverb bus with one general reverb and to keep the single tracks reverb at 0. To be honest I tried but the general reverb bus plugin has too many kinds of reverb and it's difficult to choose the right one, plus they are not guitar amp reverbs but rather general ones like HALL, ROOM, BALLROOM, ORCHESTRA etc... So at the end I have re-increased the THU reverbs in the single guitar tracks, but still kept also the general reverb bus a little bit and not too loud, cause in any case it seems to sound good. I'm just afraid a bit of this "mud" that can be created by using both THU reverb and general bus reverb, I'm not an expert in sound engeneering but to me this setup sound good.

Basically I have this situation, these are my buses, would you suggest to leave it like this? (drums will hit -4.0 dbs), or to decrease the drums volume but then I have to decrease the guitars volume too and will go to -12/-14 volume

"The only points that matter are above 0" meaning it should be fine then if the peak is around -4.0 dbs? thing is that my drums are clipping a bit, the kick especially (hitting -4.0), but I need them louder than the guitars, the guitars volume is already at -10 (not dbs) in the bus volume bar, I don't want to decrease even more the guitar volume for the drums to be heard more. Not sure what you mean with "inter sample peak where all the samples are not clipping but the wave does when regenerated"

It seems that the FreeG meter clipping peak is not matching the Cakewalk one (see screenshot) Who should I trust ? Also I'm keeping al tracks very close to the peak of -6dbs sometimes it breaks it and reach -4dbs, the RMS bottom one stays anyway around -18dbs, does it really make a difference if I break the peak a little bit and reach -4dbs? is there a tolerance?

Anyway for mastering the songs you should try LANDR, it's great, it uses AI to master your tracks, you just upload your songs (online) and you choose different styles of masters and boom, done! You can even upload a song of your favourite artist that you like the sound and it will make your song sounds like that.