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OK I got the solution from a independent Sonar guy. The issue in how the patch change is setup in sonar. Fractal does not recognize the typical CC bank changes. The solution is to identify the banks: BANK A: 01-128. USE 0 OR DEFAULT AS THE BANK CONTROL # BANK B 128-256 USE 128 AS THE BANK CONTROL NUMBER BANK C 257 to 386. USE 257 AS THE BANK CONTROL NUMBER BANK D 387 TO 512 IF THERE IS NO CHANGE ON THE PEDAL THEN YOU HAVE HE WRONG NUMBER AS THE CONTROLLER PATCH CHANGE # So Sonar was not at fault. Fractal was not at fault. I was just me.
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Sorry to get everyone up in arms on caps. My issue is that my DAW to my FM9 amp simulator has stopped recognizing midi bank changes. I have changed midi cables and looked at all the setting on Sonar and on the FM9 and nothing is setup incorrectly. When sending midi patch changes I get the default bank 0-127. When specifying the bank 1 or 2 the bank remains on the default bank. I have question in to Fractal but my guess is that this is not the problem. Any idea what could be wrong? Has anyone else tried to run midi bank changes into external keyboards of midi pedals lately? Thanks, Wayne Bangert
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David, Thanks, that worked. Do you know of any video instructions on using audiosnap? I just do not know much about this feature. Dave Bangert
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Wayne Bangert started following QUESTIONS ON SONAR , TEMPO EXTRACT , PROBLEM WITH MIDI BANK MESSAGES and 3 others
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I have been using AUDIO SNAP functions to create a tempo map for a all audio file with 10 audio stems. The drum track has straight forward with Bass, Snare. I run AUDIO snap to extract the location of the 1/4 notes in each measure. I have had good luck with this feature and I am able to add midi tracks to the file at the correct tempo. I noticed in several cases the file may have a tempo of 105 bpm as based on the real world count of the song. After running AUTOSNAP to extract the tempo the resulting tempo then is 54 bpm on average and the real world tempo count is unchanged. . Granted everything is playing in tempo but why the reduction in tempo count?
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I FOUND A PROBLEM WITH THE PATCH BANKS. IN THE PAST SONAR WORKED WELL AND I COULD ASSIGN DIFFERENT PATCH BANKS BY ADDING THE BANK FROM PATCH NAMES COLUMN TO THE FM9 - PATCH NAMES FOR BANKS. JUST DRAG IN THE PATCH NAME AND ASSIGN THE BANK NUMBER. SO I HAVE BANK 0 LISTED AND I BELIEVE THAT IS THE DEFAULT VALUE FOR BANK 0. SOMETHING HAS CHANGED FROM THE LAST UPDATE. WHEN I CHANGE THE BANK NUMBER IN THE TRACK THE NEW LIST OF PATCH NAMES COMES UP BUT NO BANK CHANGE IS TRANSMITTED TO OUTBOARD MIDI DEVICES.
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Thanks so much! I thought I have the most recent version. Go Sonar!
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I have an up to date paid subscription. I have the most recent update. I start up Sonar this morning and now it says I am not activated. I signed out and back in and it still says I am not activated and I must update to the newest version. I have the newest version. I now get this message :" free license upgrade you experience with membership". It appears I can still run sonar but I am concerned that my three booked shows this weekend are in jeopardy if sonar does not work because of this issue. How to proceed? I also check to see if my membership is upto date. It is. ?
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The first screen clip is a normal view of a file with tracks. The second screen clip is the same view after I move the "NOW SLIDER" to the right by a small amount the file slider now is way past the end point of the track (152 measures) and is now at 1675 measures. The slider is un-usable. This is not how the slider use to function. If I move the slider all the way to the right to the end, the ending measure is measure now at 2786! That is over 13 hours of possible audio. What has changed? Also need a clarification on the new start and end point feature. I normally use the control mci CC to stop the track at the end. Is this the same thing?
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Sonar does not remember the screen set console view track locations. Below my saved screen set. On bottom opening the save screen set.
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PROCHANNEL SATURATE PLUG-IN HAS NO USER GRAPHICS. THE EFFECT SEEMS TO WORK WHEN MOVING AROUND THE MOUSE ON THE SCREEN.
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SONG LIST window: the feature "PRELOAD NEXT SONG DURING PLAYBACK" does not work. When the feature is check marked to work nothing happens. The lyrics screen has strange text when display scale is set at 125% Here are some wish list items to the song list window: 1. ALLOW THE USER TO ADJUST THE FONT SIZE TEXT IN THE SONG LIST WINDOW INDEPENDENT OF THE GLOBAL DISPLAY SCALE. 2. ADD MORE COLUMNS IN THE SONG LIST WINDOW SO USER CAN DO CUSTOM SORTING TO THE LIST. 3. ALLOW THE SONG LIST TEXT TO BE COLORIZED. EXAMPLE - ROCK TUNES ARE RED, BALLADS ARE BLUE, ETC. Sonar is a great DAW!
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I noticed that the song list window does not show the vertical tab on the right side to scroll thru the song list. it is hidden and almost impossible to find with the mouse. i had to use the up/down buttons on my last gig to view the songs. it would be nice to have the tab visible in the future.
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Sonar is getting better al the time. I use Sonar as my main performance tool. Here are some requests to make it even better. 1. ALLOW USER TO ADJUST THE FONT SIZE TEXT IN THE SONG LIST WINDOW INDEPENDENT OF THE GLOBAL DISPLAY SCALE. 2. ADD MORE COLUMNS IN THE SONG LIST WINDOW SO USER CAN DO CUSTOM SORTING TO THE LIST. 3. ALLOW THE SONG LIST TEXT TO BE COLORIZED. EXAMPLE - ROCK TUNES ARE RED, BALLADS ARE BLUE, ETC.
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I have the paid version of sonar. I just updated to the newest version update. I have converted all my performance songs from Cakewalk/Bandlab to Sonar. I performed Saturday without a hitch. I did however get a warning screen a t startup that said "COULD NOT LOG IN CHECK YOUR INTERNET CONNECTION" There was no internet where we performed at. Sonar started as expected. So do I need to worry about being on the internet every time I startup Sonar? If no then what the warning screen?
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screenset not loading when song opens.
Wayne Bangert replied to Wayne Bangert's topic in Cakewalk Sonar
After working 8 hours moving my 100+ performance song list to Sonar from Cakewalk/Bandlab, I came to the conclusion that the screenset feature does not work when first opening a file in the current sonar version. My files that were created several years ago seem to have more issues when reworking the sceensets in sonar. The newer files made in 2025 seem to have less problems with setting up new screen sets. Regardless of the sceenset issues all of the song files have one issue in common, that is when first opening the file it does not remember the screen set. As I said before my solution is a temporary work around. I set up two screen sets, one at position 1 and on at position 6 in the screen set window. I set position 6 as the one I want to open when the file loads. I setup a hot key for screen set 1 position. When the file opens it tries to load screen set 6 with no luck. I then hit the hot key and screen set 1 opens perfectly. Since I primarily use Sonar for live performance I must move quickly through the song list. I am hoping that the BAKERS get this issue solved. All the other issue some to be solved and I feel Sonar will still be may main DAW for creating and performing. I wish Sonar had a mac version also. Oh well.
