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Yes I've used Mercury Classic and it's good, but not so good in certain areas

So good to hear. I hope I can continue using CbB until that happens

I'm surprised this issue still hasn't been addressed. Even if we were able to use some parts of some Color Schemes and parts of others, that would pretty much solve 90% of my issues. Some Color Schemes are ok with some areas and other ones are better in other areas. We really need a Theme Editor like we had with Platinum and CbB. After using Sonar exclusively for more than a month, I went back to CbB, so far the activation problem hasn't kicked me off CbB.

I'm leaning heavily towards Tascam 2400 and am considering Allen & Heath ZED-420 also Soundcraft GB-4. I'll continue to use my StudioMix flying faders. Very helpful discussion, thanks to all. Any comments?

Thanks azslow3, I'm amazed at your immense knowledge about all this. Since speed and efficiency is very important to me, considering my studio records all sorts of Independent artists and songwriters. This is why the analog mixer is quick and handy for doing rough mixes or good songwriter demo mixes, that I usually don't need to tweak. I always record the output of my mixer back into Sonar. For songwriter demos i record the vocal mix and also the instrumental mix, since I rarely need to tweak the instrumental mix, just the vocal. For Album projects, I always do all the mixing in Sonar, so I can easily make changes to everything, if needed. So from what you said, it appears I should just stick with an analog mixer and my Studiomix, On rare occasions that someone wants to record with a live band in the studio, I book a great tracking studio and they send me all the wav files to do the final vocals and mixing in my studio. My studio is too small to have a drum booth and record live. If anyone feels I would benefit from a Digital mixer in my situation, please chime in

So a digital mixer is just like an analog mixer except that it converts all the analog audio coming into it to digital. So does this eliminate the need for an audio interface? I have a MOTU Ultralite AVB and I have a pretty complicated custom routing set up inside it and never really need to change it. Throw OSC is very interesting and may be the answer to all of this possibly. There are several digital mixers using throw OSC. Is Sonar able to receive and make sense of throw OSC to change parameters? For sure I'd like to hopefully find a user that has done this successfully. I think the biggest hurdle will be finding a mixers that can send throw OSC messages to Sonar to control EQ in a plugin of my choice in a Sonar FX bin. AZ Controller, MIDI controller Plug-in for SONAR sounds very interesting. If anyone has used this along with a Digital mixer to control Sonar, please let us know.

Amberwolf this is what I'm referring to with a digital mixer - like this Allen and Health https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/Qu16Chrome--allen-and-heath-qu-16-chrome-edition-digital-mixer?irclickid=W9JV-mRCNxycW1tUH6195zwIUkp15ewOuXEQwE0&irgwc=1&utm_source=Impact&utm_medium=Facundo Arceo&utm_campaign=Online Tracking Link

Thanks for explaining how a digital mixer converts analog signals into digital. I wonder how that will work with my Motu audio interface right now I’m sending analog signals from my analog mixer. Will it accept digital signals? I’m wondering if there are any digital mixers that will control different parameters in sonar for instance EQ settings. It may be a little tricky but not impossible to set a knob on a digital mixer to control a high frequency knob or Fader, i’m just not exactly sure what sort of signals a digital mixer will send to sonar. For instance, the Studiomix is actually using midi signals to change volume settings. Essentially, we were talking about two different things. The studiomix is a control surface and it has 2 midi chords attached to it so it’s clearly sending and receiving midi signals to make the faders adjust the volume of tracks in sonar my big question is are digital mixers, controlling sonar in some way by sending signals to control volume or different parameters in FX

Can I use a digital mixer to adjust EQ and add reverb onto a Sonar track like an Analog mixer? Can the knobs be programmed to adjust anything in Sonar? I have a Studiomix for flying fader automation. It doesn't look like anyone makes flying faders in an Analog mixer. My Budget is $1500-3000. Also can a Digital mixer handle inputting analog synths, so they're assigned to the Digital mixer faders? And having them playback with my midi from Sonar. Sometimes I'd like to record the synth also into Sonar. I'm just wondering if a digital mixer can do all this or if I should continue to use an analog mixer and StudioMix. For decades I've used a Mackie 16 track analog mixer with 8 buses and a Studiomix control surface with flying faders for drawing automation curves in Sonar I'm a keyboard player and mostly just record vocals or 1 live instrument at a time. I have a MOTU Ultralite AVB audio interface. For songwriter demos I prefer to do a quick board mix, since it's convenient to have the faders and knobs handy on my analog mixer. I record the mixer's output back into Sonar, so I can stop and punch in a mix. Whereas on more serious mixes I do the mixes inside of Sonar using the flying faders from my Studiomix to control volume levels. This is where a digital mixer may be useful, hopefully to add EQ, reverb and FX. Any suggestions?

It seems like I need an analog mixer, instead of a digital mixer. maybe you can explain the benefits of a digital mixer in my situation in my first post. Considering I already have a studiomix which I use only for the transport buttons and flying faders drawing a volume automation curve, this along with an analog mixer is working ok . Of course I welcome any improvements to the way I'm currently working. The reason I need to replace the Mackie is the faders, knobs, and buttons have crackles or no sound at times. I have to move the faders, knobs and buttons to get it to work. A tech said the Mackie is hard to clean; you have to open it up. So since I've had it 28 years, I thought I should replace it, hopefully with something that is easier to clean. Efficiency is very important to me. Sometimes I need to do a quick mix or a good songwriter demo mix. With an analog mixer where I can adjust the EQ, reverb and fader level quickly is good. I also route the analog mixer output into Sonar so the mix is recorded there and I can stop and punch in the mix if needed. I’m surprised it seems no one has an analog mixer less than $3000 with 4 or 8 midi controlled flying faders like the studiomix. Tell me how a digital mixer will be better than what I’m using. I appreciate all your thoughts and suggestions,

Thanks so far the Tascam 2400 is the closest. But I'm hoping to find something that also has flying faders, like in my Studiomix. My budget is $1500-2000. Tascam has a separate unit for flying faders

Currently, I have a Mackie 16 track with 8 buses and a Studiomix control surface with flying faders for drawing automation curves in Sonar. I need to replace the Analog mixer and was hoping some company made a hybrid that could do what I'm doing now. I'm a keyboard player and mostly just record vocals or 1 live instrument at a time. For songwriter demos I prefer to do a quick board mix, since it's convenient to have the faders and knobs handy on my analog mixer. Whereas on more serious mixes I do the mixes inside of Sonar using the flying faders from my Studio mix to control volume levels.

To me this is the biggest deficiency. I haven't had any big bug problems. The Program is stable for me. This seems like the perfect time to address this. We had so many options with CbB and Platinum in this dept. Numerous custom themes, users would share with us. Including ones I shared too. If we had a Theme editor, the bakers wouldn't need to do much. They could let us create custom Themes to share with everyone After 9/30/25 I'll go back to Sonar, hoping this has been fixed.

What does that mean? The current build 35 is named 31.08.0.035. So are you referring to 32.1 as a updated version that addresses this?

Is there any plans for making Sonar better with Color Schemes and eventually bringing back customizable Themes. Right now it's really slowing down my workflow. Even if we were able to use some parts of some Color Schemes and parts of others, that would pretty much solve 90% of my issues. Some Color Schemes are ok with some areas and other ones are better in other areas. After using Sonar exclusively for more than a month, I’ve decided to go back to CbB, so I can get work done more efficiently. We now have until 9/30 to use CbB. I'm thankful for that.