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Anyone here remembers and or still use Cakewalk Concrete Limiter ProChannel module pictured above left at the top of ProChannel. It's VERY musical sounding FX plugin. Even if the threshold is set higher than limiting kicks in, it adds a certain roundness and or sweetness to the audio. BTW, Concrete Limiter as a few other things I know, love, love, and REALLY wouldn't want to live without is and are no longer available in the new version of Cakewalk Sonar, including a PERPETUAL LICENSE. But that's OK, even though I'm not at all fond of "Subscription Plans", but in Bandlab's defence, the membership fee is at the same levels as it ever was for 30 years for updates, and a tad lower when they run special deal campaigns. And on the other hand, even though SPLAT lacks a lot of workflow enhancements of later releases since 2017, it still runs GREAT and supports ALL current day VST3 plugins like the latest Waves v15 series plugins and Ozone 10, and has no problem hooking up Melodyne Editor 5 thru ARA "Region FX" and loading faster than a speeding bullet! And as much as I like and am grateful for ALL new enhancements, SPLAT's A KEEPER!💪

A.K.A. SPLAT! My # freak'in 1 emergency backup and "Just in case I have problems with ANYTHING else DAW! It's as, or should I say MORE as ROCK SOLID as the day it was born. It might have took an update or 3 before some of the annoying new release bugs were flushed out, but even with annoying bugs it's been ROCK SOLID since SONAR Producer 4. 💪 Which I believe, but not entirely certain, was the year when Roland 1st introduced and bundled the TTS-1 DXi synth with it, and I also have many of the extra "Paid For" ProChannel modules, synths, and Dimension Pro DSF Expansion Packs and other tools and stuff from Cakewalk Pro Audio that are no longer supported or available. 👍👍 I also use SPLAT to open and work on ancient and older .cwp and .cwb projects, particularly with older Native Instruments VSTi synths that NI orphaned over the years.

BUT as long as you DON'T uninstall Cakewalk by Bandlab or any other version of SONAR. You WILL STILL have Cakewalk TTS-1 installed and it WILL WORK in the new releases of Cakewalk Sonar AND DOESN'T NEED REPLACING.

Well I have no serious issues to report with the new 2024.12 release, just SERIOUSLY NOTICABLE PERFORMANCE gains. It's like my old AMD FX 8370 CPU is on a very well-deserved vacation running. 50 Audio/MIDI tracks with 2 instances of Addictive Drums 2 using Alesis Sample Pad Pro as MIDI controllre., Novation Impulse 61 MIDI keyboard controller used for; 2 instances of Dimension Pro Cakewalk SI Strings Cakewalk TTS-1 ProChannel modules, various Waves, Universal Audio, Softube, and iZotope audio FX plugins. Audio processing maxing out @ 23%, Engine load maxing out 43%, "O" (zero) late buffers. Using 6.8 GB of 32GB RAM Focusrite Scarlett 18i20 gen 2 running smooth as silk @ 24/48 mix latency 4 ms After performing a glitch free 3-4 hour recording session, including audio mixing session in Bandlab Studio, it sounds like THIS! Not exactly my ultimate best, but certainly not bad at all for the time I put into it and spent 'field testing' Sonar. I am EXTREMELY PLEASED!

The TTS-1 hasn't been supported since before Roland sold Cakewalk to Gibson Brands. Nobody but Cakewalk really ever supported and developed DXi's because being they run off Windows Direct X Runtime components they weren't supported by Apple and couldn't run on an industry standard Mac/ProTools machine, and THAT'S where the BIG BOYS played and where the big MONEY was and free drinks & rides were for GIRLS. Ever since I can remember, from early Cakewalk Pro Audio DAW's all they way up to present day, always "defaulted' to Microsoft SoundMapper unless I manually changed it or it was disabled in Windows "Device Manager" and it would default to my audio devices MIDI I/O. I never even thought of using the TTS-1 as a default device. But I'm one of the 'ol schoolers who truly believes it's not really about what you use... It's how you use it... And the BEST DAW, and the BEST SYNTH out there are the ones you are most FAMILIAR WITH because then and only then do you know where all the sweet spots are and what you can or cannot do with it. If the TTS-1 crashes your DAW if added later on, than make sure you load it into the TOP of the rack from the beginning. You don't even have to use it, it's not going to hurt anything or slow you down if you don't, but it'll be there just in case you might and you will be prepared. And now that I think about it, I believe I've heard of it crashing a project being added late in the project decades ago. I believe the work around is to load the project again and then add the TTS-1 before doing anything else and you're good to go. It's more like a condition, which is not exactly a problem. Like using certain Native Instruments synths with certain Waves Synths and lock up ANY DAW and requires shutting the DAW down with Windows Task Manager then shutting down and restarting Windows again. I solved that condition by uninstalling all Native Instruments synths, Cubase, and Studio One from my computer with the Ashampoo Unstaller app, and ran the Ashampoo Registry Cleaner apps and only use CAKEWALK and REASON DAW's on my Windows computer, and only run ProTools DAW on my iMac. And the ONLY free software I'm interested in and use is CAKEWALK by BANDLAB. Which I still have problems wrapping my head around wondering WHY did Bandlab EVER give it to us for FREE in the 1st PLACE? I think, as far as some people's weird outstretched over exaggerated sense of "self-entitlements" is concerned, giving what was formally known as SONAR Platinum away for free might have done more harm than good, but not necessarily enough to RANT or complain about. 😆 GM is handy for EVERYTHING, like for laying down a sax track without having to deal with the unpredictable mood swings of a difficult sax player, not just messing around, particularly for SERIOUSLY getting down and involved in the creation of recording, sharing, and sequencing music composition and collaborating with 'other' people who don't know how to play these or any other musical instruments to download and mess around with in another room and or place in another time zone, as in on the other side of the planet. And as long as the music project stays in the GM realm, we can send a 30-40 track Cakewalk Project back and forth as a tiny little email attachment in less than 1 mb in size that will play and sound relatively the same in ANY DAW playing on ANY GM synth and retain the freedom to adjust the key of the project to accommodate the singer(s) range, and the tempo to accommodate the over all GROOVE. Without a defined General MIDI specification your DAW wouldn't know what instrument or voice was assigned to what MIDI channel, nor would it know what MIDI channel to assign to what audio channel in what key, time sig. and what tempo. All of Cakewalk Studio Instruments and as well as Studio Drummer 3 included with Sonar are GM compliant, they just don't have the full selection of instruments and voices as a standard GM synthesizer with the standard 128 instruments and voices. Microsoft SoundMapper which Windows OS uses to play a good deal of the music to all of the music that magically comes out of your computer and web browsers is 100% free GM synth and can even still be set as the "Default" synth in CbB or Sonar. Ever go to those MIDI DOWNLOAD websites and audition the .MID files? Well, if you are using a Windows computer, they are playing on Microsoft SoundMapper, as does all Windows system sounds, jingles and the music playing on 1000's of video games and such. However, it doesn't have a GUI it'll still work with Sonar and can be routed & output to audio channels and the sounds and voices can be manipulated with audio FX. It's not as good or as flexible as TTS-1 but few GM synths at any price point can compete with Roland's GM/GS or Yamaha's GM/XG, or Korg synths for easily nailing today's modern sounds. And I think it's also important to note the free and or trial software you repeatedly install and uninstall again and again can really clutter up Windows Registry "junk" files that lead a plethora of paths to nowhere and back again searching for program files that have been deleted and or left behind by the uninstaller and wreak havoc on your computer's performance and DAW's stability over a relatively short period of time, you will have to spend money on registry cleaning software, professional grade UN installation software, or pay someone to do the dirty work maintenance, OR simply buy a new computer and start the process all over again. And in the end, the result in the endless search for FREE ends up costing you MORE time and MONEY than it would have if you just dropped a couple of pesos on a good reliable synth in the 1st place and spend more time MAKING and or learning HOW to MAKE MUSIC. 🤣 GM (General MIDI) is a specification set of guidelines and rules that defines and assigns specific parameters for TRADITIONAL instruments to specific DEFINED program numbers (PG) and DEFINED control commands (CC) to specific defined control functions like velocity, modulation, envelopes, etc. It helps keep different voices and synths in their own defined places in sequence, so they play well 'together' and don't crash and burn each other down and take the DAW down with them.

Yes well, "All Things Must Pass". Our future is and has always been uncertain. And in this case of the TTS-1, I'm pretty sure Roland is as shocked as I am that it lasted so long, and as a result, they politely 'asked' Bandlab to not include it in future CS releases and Bandlab politely 'agreed'. The TTS-1 certainly outlasted my $1600+ Roland Fantom X which simply died from lack of use when it's memory backup battery died. I'm sure I could dig it out of the basement, replace the battery and give it a 'Firmware' flash update, and it'll breathe new life into it, but it won't recover any of my music compositions. But that's OK because they have all been moved into Cakewalk and the TTS-1 which has a duplicate SoundCanvas version, and concerning their future, all have been saved into duplicate libraries, on hard drives, CD's, DVD's, Google Drive, Microsoft One Drive, and some even published to BANDLAB.COM. 😁 And if for some reason my TTS-1 breaks, That would most likely be because the Windows Direct X Runtime Components it runs on got corrupted which is easier to fix then the old Fantom by #1 By registering an inquisition here on the BEST User Forum I've ever been to in over 30+ years, or... #2 Do a Google search to find out how to Quickly Resolve DirectX Installation Errors on Your Windows PC with These Simple Steps all by yourself and take the future of your destiny into your own hands. #3 Be CAREFUL and MAKE SURE you READ thru and FOLLOW all of THESE INSTRUCTIONS and follow ALL steps precisely, DO NOT Improvise, cut corners or take shortcuts, rely on any opinions or beliefs (not even your own) because if you screw it up, you will have nobody to blame but yourself.

I wouldn't rule that out. The new AD 2 GUI is VERY different, not just reskinned, a lot more added functionality. I also just opened a Cakewalk Project running Reason's Rack VST 3 plugin & noticed Reason's "Humana" synth plugin failed to load and I couldn't find it in the Reason Rack plugin browser. I added another Reason synth and Reason Rack VST works fine in Cakewalk Sonar. Then I opened the Reason 11 DAW and couldn't find the Humana synth there either. It' simply GONE, poof, VANISHED like the ProChannel modules! And so I went and logged into my Propellerhead account to download a fresh copy Humana synth again and they threatened me with a just 3 more days Black Friday 40% off upgrade to Reason 13 which was hard to refuse and I forgot to "just" download Humana, and I'm starting to get an anxiety headache because the Reason DAW is MASSIVELY HUGE! Propellerhead doesn't orphan or discontinue anything in Reason, they just ADD MORE synths and utilities to it, and may reinstall the same old Microsoft Visual C++ Redistributable files that trashed Cakewalk's ProChannel? I think I'll leave well enough alone, I'm more than happy with Cakewalk Sonar as my main whip and I can do the same things with Dimension Pro and or Rapture Pro that I can do with Humana and at least dozen other synths combined in Reason and Native Instruments together. That being said, I really wish Bandlab would continue to develop and support Rapture Pro BACK in action which seems quite a bit less quirky in the new Cakewalk Sonar then it was in SPLAT. How much stuff do we need before we crash under the weight of TOO MUCH STUFF?

You can still get a GM/GS replacement DOWNLOAD for the TTS-1 at Roland.com on their "Legacy" synth page. Last time I checked it cost about $100 (US) for the VSTi version which looks really "Spiffy", sounds "GR8TE"! But........ Doesn't really outperform the TTS-1 as far as the ears are concerned. 🤷‍♂️ The Cakewalk TTS-1 isn't a sampler nor does it support samples. It is a DXi version of Roland GM/GS synthesizer with a Cakewalk GUI with about a dozen version releases of Roland SoundCanvas™ synth engines, capable of supporting 16 MIDI tracks in configurable to output audio to 2 tracks, 4 stereo tracks, or 8 mono tracks outputs to Cakewalk's mixer. Don't let it's cheesy looking DXi GUI fool you, combined with the Cakewalk MIDI sequencer, it's just as powerful and had a much easier and faster workflow with instant access to about a dozen versions Roland's highly acclaimed hardware Fantom™ synth/workstations, and being that the sounds/voices never leave the digital domain, it needs no audio or MIDI cables to hook/patch in, so typically sound's BETTER than a very pricy hardware Roland Fantom's audio stereo outputs only do having to be recorded in audio with 1 stereo, or 2 mono tracks at a time, and the sound quality will ONLY be as GOOD as your computer's soundcard/chip/audio interface.

If you already have the TTS-1 installed on your computer included with previous versions of Cakewalk DAW's since Roland introduced and included it with Cakewalk SONAR 4 and up, then you already have it so it and doesn't need replacing and it will run in the latest release version of Cakewalk Sonar.

Oh yea, I can only imagine how frustrating your job is in my worst nightmares just by reading thru some of the stuff I see here in the forums. The very place where I come from time to time to find quick solutions and also try to help others find quick solutions. And also, a place where my sense of wit & humor has gotten me in trouble from time to time. While I can ignore 90% of it to avoid getting angry or LMAO, it's like "TAG! you're IT!" and you may very well get blamed for the "Sharon Tate Murders" just because Cakewalk doesn't do exactly what someone wants it to do, exactly the way they want it to do it. 🤯 Everything was previously installed before I even upgraded from Cakewalk by Bandlab to Cakewalk Sonar with the exception of the new Addictive Drums 2 software upgrade. I've recently been going through hell with REALLY flakey Windows 11 updates on another computer which I basically only use to run Microsoft Office Pro 2021, home security, iOT, and Internet streaming & Google. I recently booted up to 2 "Blue Screens of Death" within a few months. 1st time I managed to reboot to "safe mode" and roll it back to an earlier install, and the 2sd time I had to use a Windows repair disk, and about 45 minutes later while it reinstalled Windows 11, I was almost kicking myself for not rolling it ALL the way back to WINDOWS 10.

Windows 10 Pro did not repair problems. And I also checked all other vendor's music and video production software I know that utilize C++ redistributable's. Sony/Magix, Steinberg, Propellorhead, etc. & so on and everything is fully functioning. And once again THANK YOU NOEL for providing this installation package. 🙏 It worked like a breeze and was infinitely easier and faster than digging though Microsoft's seemingly limitless and tedious pages of "FAQ's" before finding out where to download the stuff I need.

Yes, it fixed all 3. Only new software upgrade I installed recently another drum kit for XLN Addictive Drums 2. And they also updated their installer, Addictive Keys and changed/upgraded the whole GUI for AD-2.

Thank you, Noel. Uninstalling all Microsoft Visual C++ redists and running Cakewalk installer worked and I'm back to normal. 👍👍

Is there a way to rollback Sonar? I'm in the middle of working on 4 collaborations and have rapidly approaching deadlines. Trying to add a module to ProChannel crashes both Sonar and Cakewalk by Bandlab. I've lost sound output on VSTi synths. Thank God EVERYTHING works fine with SONAR Platinum, however that requires almost a complete remix. Correction, MOST modules in SPLAT show up in ProChannel When I try to add a compressor to ProChannel, it crashes SPLAT Cakewalk Sonar ver 2024.11 SONAR Platinum ver 23.8.0 build 30 [2017.08] . Glad all over_11272024_135315.dmp

Nope, no extra costs for Sonar with the normal exception of 3rd party plugins that's it, i.e. $150 per year subscription fee. Plus you get a lot more for the same price you would normally pay for SONAR Platinum upgrade in the ways of unlimited song project storage, Bandlab Studio which is an automatable 32 track mix editor with MANY FX plugins, fully customizable plugin chains, MIDI synths, pattern sequencer, a sampler, publishing services on Bandlab.com, Spotify.com, ReverbNation.com too, not too shabby mastering and what nots like 1000'S of free loops and samples if you are interested in that kind of stuff.. AND there's plenty of CONTESTS you can enter to win CASH and valuable PRIZES, get exposure, submit your BEST MUSIC get SIGNED to a RECORDING CONTRACT... Meet like-minded musicians throughout Planet Earth to share and COLLABORATE with. Not exactly the best synths in the Bandlab.com cloud mix editor, and latency can be a problem, depending on cellular signal strength, but the Sampler is FUN because I can all to EASILY record any sounds anywhere, ANYTIME with my iPhone and make & edit my own samples in one easy fell swoop with the Bandlab app installed on my iPhone using internal mics, as opposed to doing it the more complicated and harder 'import'/'export' way with Steinberg Cubasis with requires an IK iRig Pro and external mic and all that stuff. Also Bandlab.com automation doesn't support MCU (Mackie MIDI control) or HUI DAW controllers. But automation can be mapped in standard MIDI to knobs and faders on a MIDI Keyboard controller per mixing session. Bandlab does NOT store MIDI maps, nor will it record more than one track at a time. You can "Import" 32 audio/MIDI tracks from any DAW, and Bulk DUMP all tracks from Sonar at once I highly advise Bulk Dumping AUDIO from Sonar's BUSS/stem mixes ONLY as Bandlab is limited to 32 tracks and it's MIDI synths aren't all that great editing is abysmal to nonexistent. Only extra fees would be for "BOOSTING" which is essentially shelling out a few Pesos for Media BLITZING Song Promotion which pretty much buys you THOUSANDS of PLAYS @ very reasonable price points (whether your tune is worthy of it or not.) your song WILL GET A LOT OF ATTENTION! 😉