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    Beginner Here - can instrument/audio be added to uploaded MIDI file...?

    in Cakewalk Sonar

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    4 hours ago, msmcleod said:

    If you need a free one, I've used this from time to time - I've got several XG hardware modules, so I only normally use this if I'm out & about with my laptop.
    It's 32 bit and essentially abandonware though:
    https://veg.by/en/projects/syxg50/

    I've always used it through jBridge, and it works perfectly for me - I'm not sure how well it plays with Sonar's BitBridge.

    Thanks!  Abandonware isn't a problem, given the primitive level I'm currently working  - most of my software probably qualifies ;)
    For the price, it's definitely worth a try! :D

    Beginner Here - can instrument/audio be added to uploaded MIDI file...?

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    15 hours ago, Bass Guitar said:

    This problem is due to the fact that Sonar had to discontinue the TTS-1 General Midi synth back in the Fall of 2023 at the request of Roland who owns the software rights to the synth. 
    [ ...] Oddly enough Cakewalk Next paid version does include GM midi instruments. [...]
    SynthFont 64 is an inexpensive GM midi synth that will play any GM midi files. It has a stand alone version and the VST version which will work with any Daw. 

     

    Oh!  That strikes me as odd - I'd think they'd come to an agreement of some sort, since it would benefit both to make them *both* more accessible to both beginners and more knowledgeable people.  The current disjunct is IMO completely opaque.

    Meanwhile, THANK YOU also for the info about "Next."   I apparently have it downloaded and installed <!>, but I thought it was only for use on smart phones.   The website touts Sonar as "good for beginners" but I'm now thinking I need to look at "Next", and see whether it doesn't shed some light on Sonar, which to me is utterly opaque.

    I'll also take a look at the SynthFont VST, thank you for the suggestion! :D  especially the "inexpensive" part ;)  -- I'm also looking at a few "bottom tier" keyboards.  Obviously I'm so far from being a "Pro" that I'm not even in the same galaxy, Heh! ;)  but music was always a part of my life and I've been missing it recently. 

    So onwards and, I hope ;) , upwards!

    Beginner Here - can instrument/audio be added to uploaded MIDI file...?

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    28 minutes ago, Promidi said:

    Yes, you can.

    Open (do not import) your MIDI file in Sonar.
    From the synth rack, insert a synth for each required sound in your MIDI track. (these synths don't need their own MIDI track, respectively)
    Using each MIDI track’s in/outs,  route the MIDI tracks to the required synth.

    Ah-HA!!  Thank you, Promidi!  I found that under "Insert"/"Soft Synth".
    I still have to "fiddle" (no pun intended, especially such an awful one, but what the heck.... ;) ) with the things I've downloaded, but this is definitely a First Step in the right direction!  Especially since it helps me to know what's being inserted, Heh! ;)

    Old dogs can learn new tricks - it just takes us a little longer to get past all the other accumulated clutter, LOL! :D
     

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    Beginner Here - can instrument/audio be added to uploaded MIDI file...?

    in Cakewalk Sonar

    Posted · Edited by Kris Krieger

    Hello!  I've been looking and trying and I can't find the answer on my own, very possibly because I lack the terminology.
    - Anyway, I downloaded and installed Sonar just a couple of weeks ago.  I have some MIDI files I had made some years back using "MusicTime" (that was way back in 1997, Yikes!); I can load them into "Crescendo" (a free notation program) and get them to play, but they sound *horrible*.  
    - Well, I can also load them into Sonar Free; and I did find out via the Forum that "MIDI tracks don't play any sounds" because they're only instructions.  OK, I can understand that, and that there's some sub-program in Crescendo (and similar) which "translate" the Midi Channel/bank/patch/description/whatever into sounds (even though the sounds are awful).  
    - Oh, in case it matters, my MIDI input is set to "Virtual Controller" because I don't have a USB keyboard/"input device"...I looked at a few "budget" ones but don't want to spend my fixed-income dollars on something that might not even work with the software and so on...
    - ANYhoooo.... so, what I can't seem to find is, How can I link/connect/match/insert/whatever those MIDI in Sonar?  I have to assume that whatever the other programs are doing automatically, has to be done "manually" in Sonar because there are so many additional "sounds", and ESPECIALLY, better *quality* "sounds", available.  But I can't for the life of me find out how to use the MIDI track to "talk to" an instrument/"sound"/"audio" track to "tell it what to do".
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    - As I mentioned, I'm a total beginner with the whole "DAW" thing, but I'd really like to get my older compositions to where they sound at least *passably* decent, and even work on some new ones....
    - I took a screen shot of what I've got going with the MIDI file but it's pretty huge, so I'll only try to post it if it will clarify anything...
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    - Thank you all for your collective patience!
    ADDENDUM:
    I did find this https://legacy.cakewalk.com/Support/Knowledge-Base/2007013179/I-cannot-hear-MIDI-playback
    so now I can at least hear the MIDI playback, but I still hate the "tinny" sound and would love to have something like the "BBC Full ORchestra" sounds instead, so still trying to figure out how to get the MIDI *instructions* to play through a VST3 Instrument.....
    - Thanks again!

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