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OK I started a new project, recorded a bit of silence, and it looks like when "select track envelopes with clips" is checked, lassoing one node will select all the nodes within that clip, but unchecked it will select only the one node. Before it would always select the one node.

Another new behavior is that when I try to select a couple of nodes on an automation envelope with the right-click lasso, it selects all automation on the clip. (This happens even if I expand the automation lanes, which I normally never use except sometimes while creating envelopes.) Is that the way it is now, or am I missing something? I can see how it makes a kind of sense since the right click lasso would select the clip were the track's edit filter set to clips, but the vertical swipe-to-select thing doesn't work well for selecting nodes that are stacked up above each other, and ctrl-clicking each node or moving them one at a time is kind of clumsy. Anyway, is the behavior supposed to be different now? Is there a way to use the lasso on only a few nodes?

Thanks Noel for elaborating on your thinking. It's necessary to stop and restart playback in order to get Melodyned clips to play back at the right time. Resetting the audio engine is also usually a good idea when there are stability questions, as for example when using plugins with a lot of latency. As a result, it's rare that I would want to click somewhere during playback and have the time jump there. In the use case described, I generally prefer to stop playback using the space bar, set the now time before the peak in question, then restart playback while looking at the relevant meters or other screen elements. I think ctrl-clicking as a way to change the now time during playback seems like it might occasionally be useful for me, and it would solve the use case you described, without creating the possibility of accidentally changing the playback position, so that seems like a good solution to all of the concerns people have mentioned. Also, I'm not sure that this behavior was noted in the release notes. I think that the surprise and mystification I felt after updating and having the playback position jump around unexpectedly would have been significantly ameliorated by a big boldface notice of what is a fairly important change in the behavior of the software.

Deselecting by means of clicking in the empty space was a nice way to work without removing my hand from the mouse. The other side of it is that I prefer that it not be easy to accidentally change the playback position. For example, one way to select a clip is by clicking on the clip header bar. With the previous behavior, if I missed the bar and clicked next to it, nothing would happen. It was still easy enough to change the playback point with the mouse in the timeline, and actually in a lot of cases (such as when using melodyne) there can be problems with playback unless I stop and restart, which is OK since usually when I want to change the playback position it is to go back to the beginning of a passage which I'm working on. Anyway, it looks like right-clicking-and-dragging to select an empty space deselects all so I'll switch to using that. Thanks for your continued work on the software.

During playback, clicking (with select or smart tool) in an empty area used to do nothing but deselect all clips. It now also moves the cursor and playback position to the place clicked. I assume there's a setting which I can use to revert to the previous behavior?

OK, thanks for your response. In general I'd prefer that when you remove or simplify features to make the program easier for some people, you consider retaining the more advanced behavior as an option, but I appreciate you taking the time to explain your reasoning. The recent plugins list in the right-click menu actually messes up my concise plugin menu layout anyway, so I may as well get used to the new workflow.

Hello there. It used to be (say, a year or two ago) that I could have a different sorting method for the right-click plugin insert menu in the track view, versus the plugin browser. I would keep the track view right-click menu set to a particular concise layout I've created with my most-used plugins, while maintaining the "sort by manufacturer" setting in the browser to have access to all of my plugins as well as any which I'm demoing or otherwise don't wish to have in the concise plugin layout. I remember that this was a bit wonky, in that the browser layout would periodically revert to another layout (or something, I'm not remembering it exactly), but it worked well enough. I'm currently on the latest version of Cakewalk (2019.05), and it seems that the browser menu and right-click menu are both always set to the same layout. Is this how other people are experiencing it? I would like it if we could go back to having the different menus sort independently.