petemus

I've learned to be careful when using the Del key (don't know if that's used for deletion here). If a plugin has the brackets around its corners, as it might have if you've clicked it recently in the FX Bin, and press the Del key to delete something somewhere else, the plugin with the brackets gets removed. For me this happens when deleting selected envelope nodes. You think your keyboard focus is in the envelope editor only, but if a plugin has the brackets around it in the FX Bin, it gets deleted along with the envelope nodes. If I remove the plugin focus in the FX Bin, Del key leaves the plugins alone. I've suggested improving the keyboard focus management. In my case, when I work in the envelope area, the keyboard focus should move to the envelope and the plugin focus should be removed.

YES! 👍

Just updated my Waves pluggies and the issue came back. Curves Equator doesn't crash Sonar, but fails to load. Luckily, deleting the preset file mentioned above (Goh Hotoda-Electric GTR clean (adjust Thresh and Tilt for Clarity and Punch).xps) makes it work again. 😁

Don't Andy Partington's instructions above solve the issue? I haven't had a crash after deleting that fishy preset file.

Mine's healed as well!

I reinstalled my Waves stuff and repaired all my VC Redistributables as well, but still I experience the crash when opening a project with Curves Equator. Other Waves plugins seem to load fine.

There's also this: Clicking the Cakewalk link takes me to bitly.com for some reason...

Reported the bug. The Sonar dump seems to say the crash is in Sonar.exe, didn't submit a CbB dump. In Sonar, you can add the plugin to the project and save, but reopening the project crashes Sonar. CbB crashes already when you insert the plugin to the FX bin. Anyone else encountered this?

Left a bug report with minimal project I could reproduce the issue with; an empty project with three instances of different problematic plugins.

It's not that the entire Sonar UI would freeze, just certain plugin UIs. I have a feeling that they are all using OpenGL. Not sure, though. For example, all Waves, Voxengo, iZotope, Brainworx and Melda plugins work. Ones that stop working are TDR Prism analyzer and Magic7 reverb.

Would it by any chance be possible to enable some debug output from Sonar to catch with WinDbg? I can't currently see any.

Not yet. Would this condition perhaps be caught in a memory dump? Since it's not a crash, I could probs pause Sonar in WinDbg and save a dump. Don't remember if that's possible, but I'll have a look.

Well, not quite gone away, I'm afraid. Anyone else experiencing these plugin UI deaths after desktop locking/hibernate?

Aaaannd... as it many times happens, the issue has gone away by itself, at least for now. Hibernation, nor screen locking, no longerr kill the UIs. I hope it stays that way as well. 😁 A few reboots, some tinkering with nVidia control panel... Can't say exactly what I did, sigh.

Again, the plugin UI worked, until I left home for errands and locked the Windows desktop. Coming back after a couple of hours, after unlocking the desktop, the Magic7 UI no longer worked. This UI death happens on certain types of plugins, I don't know if the common factor is OpenGL or not.