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Also there is a particular thing: When i use Mvmeter to monitor every track, using value reference to -18(-18 is 0) i should theorically have the medium part of the meter at -18, not the peak. This every tutorial i've seen say.. The problem is that 1)i have a too big oxillation with this instrument, if i record classical acoustic guitar with my soundcard. If i put on -18.. the big oxillation make going a bit too out.. the Mvmeter sign red.. and the sound is horrible, is dirty. The cakewalk master don't go to red.. but on orange and sometimes sound is not clean. I have to stay in everytrack a little bit under the 0(Mvmeter)=-18 with this setup. And the final result sounds more clean in that way. But.. in that way i need more "empowerment" during the process in that way.

I0ve changed something. Now i have same level of commercial videos that i was saying.. and i'm not using Loudmax to "unpower" in that way than before.. Just limit at -1 with Limiter no6 and using it with a much much moderate way to unpower.. and just some compressor. I don't have 9 db of before differences. I've organized all the tracks in different colors.. I'm using 7 busses: Master, Metronome(to ear the metronome in a particular way in some exporting), Reverb, Rhythm, Solo, Melody. I've re-equalized some tracks.. because something before i didn't like. Some peaks where higher.. but some guitars where a bit harsh. I had to cut some high frequences.. and with similar level of listening.. some peaks are going a bit down. But the final volume is similar. Now in Loudness Meter i have -1.2 Db True peak max and -13 LUFS integrated. It is a middle way . All single tracks are near to -18.. using Vmeter. I have 2 really low peaks: track 7 and track 20.. but they are just some note.. and really in background.. i ear it well in the general arrangement. This arrangements has got lot of different dymamics, from difficult to ear to very strenght.. I ear them good like this Some peaks moving during the song.. and some track aren't started in full way.. in the photo. Now the fader of the master it's put back to neutral position.

I forgot an important thing: The peak of you where talking about depends also from the equalization. I'm talking on some particular tracks. It changes lot and lot if you work on eq. Also who made famous videos on gain staging told that the numer are number... but it's also important to "ear". When you start with a track weak for sure, you can put the gain up.. but i think it's not the only things to do. The quality of the source is essential to have a good result and you can't arrive sometimes. Also if i add 6 of gain more.. sometimes isn't enough. And equalization is essential. Example: You remember the track you told me the peak was too low, about -19? Also.. changing the equalization..peak go to -5 or higher. - But the result? The sound become strident, jarring. Same file, same project. Only who listen to it can ear exactly what is happening. The basis i think it's also working with a good source and using an equalization that is good for this kind of instrument, this particular sound. Edit: i had made a mistake in written. I would like to correct: From -19 to -5.. the peak changed using equalization and gain toghether, not only the equalization and not only gain.

Now i have an issue, technical problem and i don't have time to investigate. I will try it or other similar autogain app that have free try in the next days.

The answer was this. It doesn't seem to me an answer to my question. My question was a "rethorical question". I've imagined that withouth pay, with this software, you couldn't make what we were talking about and export withouth limit. I'm talking about that link that you gave me. I just would have the confirmation. There was a demo version, i don't know how "far" can the demo version "arrive". Was a reply to a particular part of your message and was a specific question. I was curious.

Ok, thank You very much for the answers. Master level now is flat, i've moved. I work with the equalizer now. I had put it lower a bit because of some unwanted red and high LUFS that disappear putting the master level a bit down. But .. yes, there are better way to work on it. Now i have another problem, i don't wanna disturb to much, i wouldn't like to be too long. I try to explain easily: i record the acoustic guitar, the peak level of the recording, indicated under the track in the console vies is something like -60 in the track. Is difficult for me to work starting with something like this. Can be that i'm a little tired and i've made a mistake withouth see it. In the master the signal is present, but under the track i don't see nothing. You know what happened? I'm reading only this track. Shouldn't i see a signal also in the source track? Why the level indicated in the track is so low? It's track 3. Now i have -42.6. You know what happened? I ear it very well. How could i make something to the track in cases like this? The signal in the panel of my soundcard input is good and also the signal in the master. Probable i made something wrong. You can see that there is a green line on the master -9.4. Nothing appear on track 3, it seem that i'm not reading it.

The peaks before that the instrument start or is full playng.. can be some little noise in background sometimes also. i delete all of them before exporting.

Now i've could understood. You mean the peak level(right number), not the level on the knob, that's correct? If yes, i'could thinking to other in last answer. Anyway.. some peaks are indicated before that this tracks start in that screenshot, it was taken in a moment. Tracks that aren't sounding. Or the bass is particular in that project. Anyway here they are different: We don't have anymore a so low peak in the bass. This is the photo now. We don't have anymore -19.

Interesting, is the auto gain in the link you gave me totally available with the demo version, or you have to buy the pay version for exporting? Does it have limitations?

Moved You mean 1)the buses divided for effect, for example: all the rhythmn.. send to bus 1 with two effect in the bus, all the melodys send to bus 2: another effect in the bus.. and something like this? It is an old file and i used make "every" track with different effects.. because the Rhythm that are good in a track are horrible in another.. is a little bit difficult arrangement to use like this. Or mean 2)diving in different categoriies and send to buses but using in every track his own effect?send to bus the category and send the bus to the master? The category 1: i was made an experiment.. playing.. but didn't have so much diving of effects using. It's made in the photo with different colors. Category 2: didn't try. Or other? No.. there are different tracks, but they don't play always together. They alternate. There are different tracks and don't stay all in the same screen to check all together.. or i should make a higher definition to the monitor. Anyway a video could be better give idea of the general movement .. because some track with low value are just don't playing or sounding or make just one or two note in all the song. Anyway could try to adjust. Wich value do you mean exactly? the bass? i had to put his level much much down.. to make it at the same volume of the maximum level that he permit me to the guitar withouth going to red. Because bass and guitar should be at similar level. You can see i had to bring lot down.. Sometimes the tracks with very low peaks of volume are the tracks that i had to put down and down to put them at the same level if you mean this. Could be that i didn't get the answer. Track 4 as more low i have the peak.. as more better sounds. In the sense that when i try to cut frequences too much.. sound really worse. I can try to analyze and eventually delete and overwrite this track. Can be that something is gone bad in the source. now the higher is - 0.9. Anyway it's not related to my project that i was talking for.. this is old and was just an example to investigate about why the final volume must always be so low. My project is another and 'ill send it in the next days how i told. I have checked every single track with Mv Meter set at -18. 0 is -18.

Here another project with lot of tracks. This work differently because i used every single track in indipendent mode and make them go to the Master, in the other i organized tracks in groups. But.. the example can work the same, there is same volume. In this case i used Limiter no.6 insted than Loudmax, to gain the dB that i didn't have in the final project.. but it's the same. Here you can see the Console View, i have lot different examples, worked in different mode, but the way is the same. I had to obtain some "final volume" using the limiter.. because the exported file sounded too low respect to other commercial videos. Here you can see the final result with loudness meter, after having "empowered" the project.

Ok. The question about the 9db.. can be applied also to other similar projects: I'm making this project again with similar characteristics, because i have found some better solutions in the source sound. Source is the basis.. so something will change, but same console view and settings. I will complete in a couple of days i think.. I will make the screenshot and send it here, so we will could analyze it. Should have no sense now make you loose time on old projects that they are been deleted. I will quote your message again when it's ready, so i think you will receive the notification.

Ok. I confirm. Only silence.

If i put the master in Mute, no sounds come off. If i press play all is mute. Only silence. Do you mean this kind of test?