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What I've read on other forums is it depends on each Daw on how much of your project gets transferred. Example Automation is lost. But it's a step in the right direction because for a lot of people being able to work in different Daw's would be an improvement to workflows. As I stumble though trying the 4 Daw's I chose as worthy replacements, I find each has a strong point. But none have them all. Sonar really does have the most. The software is King, but it comes with no future guarantee that I can use it.

Last report it was now over 100 Million Bandlab Members. It would be interesting to know how many users are actually working in Next. Judging by this sub forum it seems that it is almost zero. But that's unscientific. I guess Bandlab would have some idea by looking at how many people have it activated right now. That said even that doesn't tell you how many are actually using it. I've had it installed since day one. As Daw's go I really like it. Mostly for it's clean simplicity. It loads up super fast, it does what it does perfectly without fuss. The user manual is easy to navigate. But of course the long list of missing features has me putting it aside to return to using more full featured Daw's like Sonar. If they added ARA support and the Smart tool I could actually take it very seriously. Therefore I keep it updated but I never use it to do anything other than Stem Separation. And now I can do that in Audacity with higher quality 48/24 files offline. I'm still cheering for it! The little Daw that could!

Yes the other thing that is not happening is the option of saving to the new DAW Project format. I see Cubase just added it. This will be a must have feature going forward.

Probably a small handful. Just like with every Daw other than Pro Tools and Logic. Cubase might be the third. People who chose to use Cakewalk as a professional tool, and I was one of them, are oddballs in the world of Daw's. There's no point complaining. Why would pandering to the smallest possible user base of your software even be on the radar? Loosing a few dozen users is of no concern I would think. I find nothing evil in this thinking. It is what it is. I have lots of choices now and renting Sonar until next July for the cost of a good Plug in is just fine by me. I haven't paid a dime for over almost 10 years! Try that with any other Daw!! I would imagine that out of those 100 million it's a very very small percentage that actually are using Sonar. It would be way over their heads. They are using the Bandlab apps and other stuff. Just look at this forum. Do you see hoards of people posting? It would seem to be about half the activity it had before June 6th 2023. Just be grateful we have the options of the Free CbB and cheap rent of Sonar which is only there because somebody thought it was a good perk to add to the empire. The empire would not fall if it wasn't there. We are blessed to still have Noel and staff still on our sides. Sonar is now a gem but, yes. it would be preferred by most of us "Life timers" to actually own it. I have until July to not think about it.

almost 10 years ago in 2015 Gibson offered the "Lifetime Update" to a small crowd of users of Sonar Platinum. In Nov 2017 Gibson Announced the abandonment of the Cakewalk empire. Seems a lifetime was less than 2 years. In Feb 2018 Bandlab took over the Cakewalk Empire and with carefully chosen words said it will be free. They never said for a lifetime they never said forever. The word lifetime is not the same as the word forever anyway. So we did continue to have this so called Lifetime updates and support honored, but by a different company that was not even obliged to do so. If you chose to stay with Splat then you chose to miss out on all those free updates and support. Your choice. (Seems sort of unwise to me. ) The "Free lifetime updates" stopped a year ago when all new updates were transferred to the latest version Sonar. Sonar is only available as part of a large package of perks for becoming a Member of the Bandlab Empire. Bandlab has 100 million Members. Complaining about something a different company did to the company that actually saved our butts?? ? you are only farting in the wind. The Bandlab Membership goes on sale often. Sign up for emails and only purchase a year when it goes on sale. I got mine for almost half price.

The question I have is did the OP download and install the latest ASIO driver from the website? Typically once you install the ASIO driver Cakewalk will automatically grab it. And the ASIO driver from Focusrite will be by far the best performance.

Well they did but I think it was for Sonar x2. See the sticky in the Tutorial sub forum by Morton. It would take way to long to navigate all the home made ones to actually learn anything. Most other DAW's have official tutorials and accessible from within the software. I probably have learned more here on this forum than from any other source. Scook was king of correct answers but I guess he's long gone.

Every DAW is different. You develop a workflow with a particular DAW and when you try and change to a different DAW that workflow will most likely not work at all. I have tried most of the mainstream DAW's over this last year. Of course Logic is not available to PC users. What I found is some DAW's are very intuitive to learn and some are a nightmare. I would have to include Cakewalk / Sonar in that category. It's the trade off for it being possibly one of the few DAW's that does just about everything a DAW can do. Therefore it's has a huge users manual and a zillion features, menus and lot's of tiny microscopic buttons. I took me 15 years and I am still learning. None of the 12 or so DAW's I tried can replace everything it does for my workflow. Studio one and Cubase come the closest. It has features like a smart tool that no other DAW has. You get used to your workflow using a smart tool and all the other DAW's seem clunky. I'm hoping they take the time to make proper tutorials for it someday. The by far easiest DAW I used was Mixcraft. The worst was Ardour with Reaper a close second. Pro Tools is also easy to learn. There's a free version. Ardour, Waveform and Pro Tools First are free but for now Cakewalk is still the best free DAW IMHO

The solution is to use Track Templates to insert new instruments. Insert a Instrument, assign it to the bus as well as add any effects etc. Now save this as a track template. This will not only instantly have everything you normally use on hand, it will also create the bus if it is missing.

@Daniel Feldman I have a workflow for this I will share. I use a Zoom L8 which records directly to an SD card. This way the recorded tracks are clean and unaffected by any changes made to the mixer during a show. I can also record the stereo master output which is the board mix. I used to record direct to Cakewalk using a Tascam 16x4 interface, but as you mentioned, this is a bunch of extra work and you need a second table to put everything on. The Zoom is much simpler to use as a multi track interface but you still need the Laptop. The SD card records 48/24 wave files so there's no quality difference. Personally I think recording to the SD card is the way to go. I noticed you only mentioned Track templates and not Project templates? That might have been the simple answer to your question. But I'll explain what I do anyhow. Open an empty template and grab all the tracks from the SD card and drop them in. This will populate the project and the tracks will be stacked in order of the naming convention the SD card uses. For me this is channels 1 thru 10 ( or 12 if I use the master) Now you use this to set up a new project Template. Name the tracks, colour add effects create sub buses etc. Now save this as a CWT template file. Now all you do is bulk drag and drop the other songs into this template For the first song I now save and name it as a CWP file. I then set to work mixing. When I'm happy with the Mix I save it as a MIX RECALL. Now when I open the second song I can drag the Mix Recall from song #1 mix recall folder into Song #2 track pane. Now Song #2 will have all the effects and settings used in song #1. If you have recorded a whole show/ set/ practice none stop or in multiple songs no problem. Drag those to the template. Turn on Ripple edit. Split just at the beginning of song #1. Highlight the Left selection and then delete. Go to the end of song #1 , split, highlight right, delete. Important- Use "SAVE AS" and name the song. Make sure and save it as a CWP file. Now go to UNDO and this brings back the deleted Right selection, ( songs #2 etc) Now delete the Left selection ( song #1) and go to end of song #2 and repeat using SAVE AS and UNDO until you have a project for each song. Note: they can/will all be in the same project folder and will share the original audio data to save space. Later you can use SAVE AS and move them ( to a different drive? ) as individual projects. Important note: Don't forget to turn off ripple edit when you open each file later.

I have no problem, I have versions going back to Guitar Studio. I also have 3 other GM players. I have 4 Midi Hardware GM players. Read the OP. This is about how Cakewalk/Sonar used to have a default GM player. It used to play GM files automatically. It could use the TTS-1 or the MS Wavetable to do this. They removed both so new users don't have options. All that is needed to fix this would be to have an option ( Like Ardour, Mixcraft & others) to chose a default GM player.

I guess I should just change the title of the thread to "Help no sound"! Geez..

So note,, no prices. you have to sign up. Who will bother.

Yes we might think to do that. But a random person who is shopping for a Daw would never type that, They would do like I did and use keywords like Sonar or Cakewalk. As I said, try it... You get pricing to purchase Sonar Plat. Which begs the question why they have not yet killed those pages. It's all okay to a point, but it's disheartening to see such a good Daw get such shabby treatment.

DAW Purchase Can dollars on Sept 22 2024 Lifetime purchase. ( or sub ) Ardour $1-$45 ( almost Free ) Ableton $129-$479-$969 Bitwig $99-$199-$399 Cakewalk Free Cake Sonar No pricing , ?? for sub ?? have to create account. Cake Next Same as Sonar. Cubase (on sale) $72-$238-$420 Luna Free Motu DP $195 Mixcraft $79-$149 ( rent to own option) Harrison Mixbus $129 Pro Tools First Free Pro Tools full - Sub $35 mo or $300 Year Reaper $60 Studio One $149-$179 or $20 Mo Sound Bridge Free- $179 or $10 mon Waveform Free I quickly got all these prices by going to each developers web site and they were either on the home page or listed under " Buy" or "Purchase" Not so for Sonar. Google " Cakewalk Sonar Price " will get you to Legacy Store for Sonar Plat. The cost of subscribing is hidden from the public on the Bandlab websites and the only way to find out is buy signing up for a membership. If you were shopping for a Daw would you even bother?