Ben Staton

@jimlynch22 Very strange. Unfortunately, we're not able to reproduce it here, which makes it very difficult to fix. Some questions: 1. Is it the latest version of Sonar? 2. Which color scheme are you using (Dark, I assume)? I ask because the colors in your video don't exactly match any of the stock color schemes! I guess it could be a side effect of the screen recording though. 3. Does it happen with all of your projects or just this one? 4. Could you send us a copy of the project? 5. Are you using any third party software that somehow customizes the appearance of Windows/apps? If so, please try disabling them. We might be able to figure out what's going on with more info. Thanks!

Hi, Note that the fix won't automatically correct any projects that were saved with incorrect track/bus/outs pane widths or wide/narrow strips. It just prevents Sonar from accidentally messing with those things going forward. So if you have a project that was saved that way, you'll need to manually adjust everything to taste and then re-save the project. After that, you should find things stay where you left them. For example, if I choose Strips > Narrow All Strips, then save the project, the next time I open it all strips are narrow as expected. Please try adjusting/re-saving and let us know if you still run into any issues (in which case details of your monitor setup - eg. left/primary/4K/175% and right/secondary/1080p/100% - and a video showing saving, closing, and re-loading of a project would be most helpful). Thanks, Ben

It's possible you've inadvertently hidden the keyboard pane somehow. I was able to reproduce it by dragging the keyboard pane to the far left. If I'm right, there is a little vertical splitter on the far left of the PRV, but it's just not very obvious and appears right next to the Inspector splitter which confuses the issue. 20250822-1254-31.3134018.mp4

Fixed an issue described by @Mark Morgon-Shaw above, where, if you have plugin window recycling enabled, minimize a plugin, then switch to/open another plugin, it appears minimized.

Curious if anyone is seeing this behavior on Windows 11 ?

@Js_MSN_SN Thanks for the report. We're not seeing anything odd here, so it might be something to do with your specific display setup. Please would you let me know how your monitors are configured. For example, I have two side by side monitors set up like this: Left/primary/4K/175% and right/secondary/1080p/100% If I'm able to duplicate your specific setup I might be able to reproduce it and fix the problem. Also, a full screen video showing the problem would be very helpful if possible.

I'll PM you 👍

@Tommy Byrnes Unfortunately, I still can't reproduce it, and there's only so much I can glean from the screenshots you sent earlier. If you could share a video showing you opening Sonar and Console View, it might give me some more clues. Alternatively, we could do a remote video call and you could share your screen to demonstrate it? I'd also still like to know your monitor configuration as it could be relevant (you'd be surprised). I don't think I'm going to be able to fix it without more information.

I was actually referring to the CV 'modules', not tracks/buses. See this menu: Any of those turned off? Thanks again! Edit: Oh, and any chance of a full screen video showing it happening, please?

I fix is currently in testing. It may even come with a slight performance gain too! Thanks again for the report. I suspect this bug may be behind some of the recent reports of UI lag too, not just the specific Time Ruler drag/scroll issue highlighted above. Bear with us though - much of the team is off today (4th July), and the fix is in a sensitive area so needs to be tested properly. We'll release an update as soon as possible.

Hi Max, Thanks for the detailed reply. I'm still unable to reproduce it, unfortunately. When I insert a new plugin, it always appears on top of the Console View. The only exception is if I click on the CV, in which case it briefly moves on top of the plugins, but only for a fraction of a second, after which the plugin windows jump back on top of the CV again (IOW, expected behavior). Is there any chance you could capture a video, please? Preferably both monitors, but if you're only able to capture one, then obviously your secondary (TV) monitor with the CV/plugins on it is the one I'm interested in. Thanks again, Ben ps. I forgot to ask - which Windows version do you have (10 or 11)? Also, the monitor resolutions you gave seem... unusual. Did you mean 1920x1200 for the Acer, and 1080x1920 for the TV (which implies portrait orientation, not landscape)? Edit: And do you use the 'Disable Floating' option on the CV and/or plugin windows by any chance? I can make it happen if I disable floating on various combinations of CV and/or plugin windows, but I'd recommend against using 'Disable Floating' in general.

@Max Arwood Re your plugin window recycling/pinning issue, check this Preferences setting: File > VST Settings > General > Recycle Plug-In Windows Sounds like you want it to be unchecked/off. IIRC, we might have changed the default between CbB and Sonar.

Hi @Max Arwood, Thanks for the report. I'm not seeing this behavior on my multi-monitor PC though, so it may be specific to your particular monitor setup. Please would you let us know how your monitors are configured? For example: Primary/left/4K/175% and Secondary/right/1080p/100% Also: 1. Which monitor is the main Sonar window on? 2. Which monitor is the Console View on? 3. You mention you don't use the MultiDock, so I assume the Console View is undocked/floating independently, right? 4. Does it happen with all plugins, and if not, which plugin (or which vendor's plugins)? If possible, a video would be helpful too. Happy to investigate and fix if we're able to reproduce it here. Thanks again, Ben Edit: Obviously I'm referring to plugins disappearing behind the Console View here, not your other issue re 'pinning/recycling' plugin windows which I'm looking at separately.

@Mauro Gaspa Is it possible for you to record a video that shows Sonar working OK and then going wrong? The videos you've shared so far only show Sonar once the problem has already happened. If we can see Sonar working as normal and then going wrong, it might give us some more clues. If possible, please record the whole screen and not just Sonar. If you're willing, we could do a Zoom (or similar) meeting and you could demostrate it to me, but a full screen before and after video might suffice. Thank you!

Hi @Mauro Gaspa, We haven't forgotten about this. I'll be looking into it in more detail soon, so please bear with us. Thanks, Ben