Mr No Name

it's ok I found the answer on the internet, took me 2 seconds, (2 hours and 2 seconds to be exact, 2 hours to be bothered to look, 2 seconds to find it) Cakewalk Help Center Next Installing Next Downloading, Installing and Activating Cakewalk Next October 25, 2024 07:18 Cakewalk Next is available for both Windows and Mac operating systems. It is currently accessible via BandLab Membership and requires an active BandLab Membership Subscription to work. If you do not have Membership you can sign up for it using your BandLab account through this link. Go to the Cakewalk website Click on the Cakewalk Next Banner Under 'Now Available Through BandLab Membership' select your operating system to download the corresponding version. Once installed, open Cakewalk Next You will be prompted to Sign in to your BandLab Account to activate Sign in with your BandLab Membership Account details Cakewalk Next is activated, and you can now save and export your projects.

I'd be interested in trying this NEXT, it was was cheap and standalone, can't beat a simple DAW Is there anyway to try it without one of these subscriptions?

I respectfully disagree, Waves Studio rack is a thing of beauty, possibly a work of genius, having tested it I can find no fault with it, plugin companies can go f%"& themselves releasing mid/side versions of existing plugins, I'll use that instead for free.

toying with the idea of getting the Method 1 drum machine. £32 plus a free drum sample pack.

I have good news all round on this subject, there is a plugin from Klevgrand called Gaffel which I got a while back for this purpose, it has 4 bands and works well, I got it cheap in one of their promotions, currently $60 , no discount for black friday for some reason. also there is one from bluecat audio MB-7, which has good reviews but quite expensive at around $129 https://www.bluecataudio.com/Products/Product_MB7Mixer/ but, the winner is a plugin I promote regularly to people for it's cpu saving qualities, Waves Studio Rack / Studio Verse, which is free, you can insert 8 bands of multiband, it is designed to work with waves but will load a selected amount of 3rd party vsts from other developers, It also does parallel processing, i'e mid/side on non mid/side plugins, sounds fantastic, tested it with a waves API 560, sounds exactly like you would expect a mid/side eq to sound, possibly better, I would rate the msed as a monitoring tool more than a processing one, sounds a bit un-natural to my ear, again will convert a selected number of 3rd party vsts, and as luck would have it, black box HG2 is on the list, not Maag eq4 unfortunately. 👍 https://www.waves.com/plugins/studiorack edit ; rescanned plugins through the studiorack, have all the vst3 plugins at my disposal, including maag. great success,

thanks, I have that plugin since a few years, good plugin. What prompted the idea about this was seeing developers releasing mid/side versions of plugins I already have, for example, Maag eq 4, they released a mid/side version, rather than buying a mid/side version there must be a utility to covert the original version, also with the black box HG 2, they released a mid/side version, I don't want to buy another version for mid/side, needs a DIY solution, a workaround. ??

these are good suggestions, but they seem to be only affecting the mid/side properties of the audio, I want to be able to control the mid/side properties of the plug in. I'll keep looking. Must exist.

does work, but is very similar to voxengo msed

I'm pretty sure Bandlab have nothing to do with Cakewalk DAW anymore, it has been shifted to another part of the "corporation" where it will be left, to gather dust. But still work with no updates. anyway.

I'm looking for a plugin that will convert any L/R plugin into mid / side mode, even if (especially if, that's the point) it's not designed to do so. a mid/ side converter if you will whether it will go before or after I'm not sure ?

I don't think that will happen regardless of what Mike says.

it's only function being to turn non mid /side plugins into mid/side ones.

no, I'm looking for a plugin that will turn any plugin into mid/side,

I'll never stop using Cakewalk anyway, Mike can use what DAW he want's to.