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Cakewalk Latency recording from Roland TD-27 Multi-Track Audio
Alex Cordero replied to Alex Cordero's question in Q&A
I'm going to guess this was just a weird gremlin. At this point I can't even force back the latency issue. (Hopefully it never comes back ) Maybe you guys are good luck. Thanks everyone for the great input! Still maybe this post will help someone else. -
Cakewalk Latency recording from Roland TD-27 Multi-Track Audio
Alex Cordero replied to Alex Cordero's question in Q&A
I did mess with the monitoring on both the FR and in CW. Maybe I had missed something there in my frustration. -
Cakewalk Latency recording from Roland TD-27 Multi-Track Audio
Alex Cordero replied to Alex Cordero's question in Q&A
Thanks Hook! I do have V2 installed. -
Cakewalk Latency recording from Roland TD-27 Multi-Track Audio
Alex Cordero replied to Alex Cordero's question in Q&A
I definitely plan on editing and quantizing. Thanks for the feedback. -
Cakewalk Latency recording from Roland TD-27 Multi-Track Audio
Alex Cordero replied to Alex Cordero's question in Q&A
Awesome... didn't even see the sync/cache setting there. It shows both the FR and TD as options. The Midi part is selected. Thanks! -
Cakewalk Latency recording from Roland TD-27 Multi-Track Audio
Alex Cordero replied to Alex Cordero's question in Q&A
Yes, using ASIO. I couldn't wait to mess with it, so I took some screenshots and notes and started to mess with it to figure it out. I'm sure some armchair expert here will sit back in their chair picking their teeth, patting their fat belly, looking down their nose and say "of course"... but here's what I found so far in case it helps anyone. Cakewalk Preferences (Devices) show choices for the Focusrite and all TD27 inputs/outputs. Some are greyed out. The inputs and outputs are only greyed out based on the selection made in the output area. If you have the Focusrite selected in the output, you can't select any TD options in either. Once you deselect the output now you can make other selections. After selecting your TD choices, the FR options become greyed out. At this point, you MUST, "Apply" the changes before getting fresh options in other preferences screens. As a software engineer, I tend to develop apps like this to update/cache the changes when moving through screens and then updating the config on save or dumping the cache on cancel. So, my bad for not thinking it didn't work that way. It looks like the TD is routing through the USB into the PC. Cakewalk does its thing and sends back the TD sound plus the other prerecorded tracks back through USB into the TD. Where it then sends back out along the L/R 1/4" outputs into the Focusrite which plays sound through the speakers. Could probably use the TD headphone out too. I'm sure this isn't the right way but it's what worked for me so far. See screenshots attached. I'm still open to any suggestions to try to get this working the right way. Thanks again. -
Cakewalk Latency recording from Roland TD-27 Multi-Track Audio
Alex Cordero replied to Alex Cordero's question in Q&A
Yes, I did exactly that from the beginning, and from there experimented with different set ups. I 100% agree with you that it should work that way, but I still had latency. Weirdest thing!!! So, a few hours ago the latency stopped. No other updates, changes or anything I haven't tried before... except having L/R and USB connected at the same time. Maybe has nothing to do with it. I have it currently recording Audio (not Midi) to multi tracks. (I'm ok with that for now but Midi would be the next step) The TD27 simultaneously has L/R connected to the Focusrite and USB connected to the PC. Both options work. (Just seeing what worked and didn't) It's recording from the TD27 into Cakewalk while the previously recorded tracks AND the sound from the TD27 is routed through the Focusrite coming out of the speakers. I hope I don't get that latency back, but after I finish this quick project, I'm making it a mission to find out why it happened and share the answer for the next guy who might suffer from this. I'll add screenshots if possible when I figure it out. -
Cakewalk Latency recording from Roland TD-27 Multi-Track Audio
Alex Cordero replied to Alex Cordero's question in Q&A
I'm not sure if you read my original post stating that I've already downloaded and installed the latest TD27 drivers from the Roland website. If there's a special Asio driver I'm not aware of, please provide a link. I've already tried ASIO4all as well. -
Cakewalk Latency recording from Roland TD-27 Multi-Track Audio
Alex Cordero replied to Alex Cordero's question in Q&A
I have read the manuals. No need to be an ahole. I'm coming here looking for kind people to be helpful. Jerk! -
Cakewalk Latency recording from Roland TD-27 Multi-Track Audio
Alex Cordero replied to Alex Cordero's question in Q&A
I've done that. I've tried everyone's suggestions. No need to be an ahole. That might work as a sloppy work-around. I really need to hear what's happening especially the metronome. I'm open to and appreciative for helpful suggestions that I haven't tried yet. I shouldn't have to record things out of time and try to repair them later. -
Cakewalk Latency recording from Roland TD-27 Multi-Track Audio
Alex Cordero replied to Alex Cordero's question in Q&A
I did exactly that and it didn't work. -
Cakewalk Latency recording from Roland TD-27 Multi-Track Audio
Alex Cordero replied to Alex Cordero's question in Q&A
I'm finding no way around this, and it's held up months of progress. I think the answer might be to DUMP Cakewalk. I see no real answers only hacks. Has anyone had any success around this issue with other DAWS? -
Cakewalk Latency recording from Roland TD-27 Multi-Track Audio
Alex Cordero replied to Alex Cordero's question in Q&A
There doesn't seem to be a way to directly reply to answers on this post so I'll clarify better here in case I did a bad job initially. YES: The Roland TD-27 Drum Kit DOES output via USB for MultiTrack Recording. This is an intentional feature. YES: I have managed to get this to work with WASAPI Shared, BUT there is TREMENDOUS LATENCY. (THIS IS THE PROBLEM I NEED TO SOLVE DESPERATELY) YES: I have already been recording the whole drumkit in L/R output mode but I can't modify the kick for example (ex: add more bass), or if I wanted to duck the Bass Guitar based on the Kick. I need it on a separate track. It can be done BUT not with this latency issue. NO: I will not record the drum track 18x to record each part separately. Who would do that?? NO: My question was not about recoding MIDI. That's not my goal here. I like the sounds from my drum kit. New notes: I have tried this now on 3 separate PCs. One brand new gaming machine with more power than anyone needs for this. Another PC that I use to experiment on. And another with a pretty decent soundcard (if that matters). ALL have good amount of CPU and Memory. None show any bad draw on resources in the resource manager. Thanks again for any help on this. -
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Cakewalk Latency recording from Roland TD-27 Multi-Track Audio
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MY GOAL: Record *Multi-Track Audio* from my TD-27 Drumkit so I can mix and add VSTs as needed. I've been recording L/R 1/4" out from the TD-27 all this time but the mix is not the best and I'm limited to what I can do with it on a single stereo track. EQUIPMENT: Roland TD-27, Good quality USB Cable, Brand New Gaming PC with 64Gb Ram, AMD Ryzen 9 9950 on a Asus X870 Gaming MB & Win11 Pro. (No Audio Card - just onboard), Focusrite Gen 3 2i2, and of course, Cakewalk. SETUP: The TD-27 is setup for Vendor Mode (which they suggested) and has updated firmware. Connected via USB directly to PC. The PC connects to my Focusrite which outputs to speakers. I've downloaded the latest TD27 drivers and rebooted/restarted everything. Windows is also up to date with no driver issues. Cakewalk is also up-to-date. THE ISSUE: When I go into Cakewalk preferences and select ASIO, I can play back all my other instrument tracks (bass, keys, guitar, vocals, etc), *BUT I can't select any individual drum tracks as they're greyed-out. Selecting WASAPI Shared, I now can select the individual drum audio tracks, *BUT I get terrible *LATENCY* and can not adjust the buffer as it's greyed-out. WASAPI Exclusive also allows me to select the drum audio tracks, *BUT now sounds horribly broken up and still has latency. Although I can adjust the buffer, it still sounds absolutely unusable. I've downloaded ASIO4all, *BUT it didn't work at all. I've also tried on another computer (My new computers predecessor which has all the same software and setup, *BUT same result. I can record no problem from L/Mono, Right, But that isn't what I'm trying to do. I can also get Midi to record into the track, But also, not what I'm trying to do. I've search forums and YouTube and can't find the answer. Any suggestions are appreciated. Thanks -
Is there a way to get another decimal place in the tempo? I am only getting xxx.x and need xxx.xx. If I add the extra number, the tempo is rounded up. For example, 115.25 becomes 115.3. I'm downloading stems for backing tracks, and I need to match the tempo from song. Thanks