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OK, I asked ChatGPT. Melodyne and Sonar are working together differently now, and Region FX is the preferred method, whereas it does still work in the effects bin but is less flexible. To solve my immediate problem, I did a Bounce to Track and rendered the FX, then just deleted the original.

Something is way wrong here. I followed these steps. After rendering Region FX it sounds autotuned just as before, and the Melodyne still sits in the effects bin. If I disable Melodyne the pitch correction disappears just as it would have had I not done the Region FX thing. Also, when Melodyne is still enabled, if I drag the clip to another part of the song it still plays in the original place the clip was, indicating that Melodyne is still trying to operate. I SWEAR on a stack of Bibles I used to always put Melodyne in the effects bin like any other effect. Now I'm being told this is and has always been a mistake and I'm feeling very gaslighted right now.

Yes, I'm putting Melodyne in the regular effects bin for the track. How am I supposed to be doing it? That's the way I've always done it for years...

@David Baay I don't think that's it. There is no option to remove the effect once rendered like there used to be, and the effect was not rendered when I tried it anyway. I bounce to clip all the time and that's never been part of it.

I'm still running into annoying little problems with Sonar, after years of trouble-free BbB usage. This is something of a dump of miscellaneous issues I'm having, don't want to floo the thread with a bunch of new threads. 1. Process Effect - I have done all my autotuning in Melodyne, and now I am ready to commit the changes to my audio clip. Didn't this used to be what Process Effect was (right-clicking on the clip)? Now Process Effect is still there, but it wants me to select a NEW effect or something. There was a dialog which asked if I wanted to remove the effect after processing it. Am I remembering something wrong? 2. I add modules to the toolbar, but next time I open Sonar, the modules aren't there and I have to add them every time. Where do I go to save my toolbar setup across sessions? 3. Now when creating a new MIDI track, it defaults to All External Inputs, which used to never be a problem, but now I guess I need to specify my piano and Channel 1. How do I make this the default when creating a new track? I suspect it might be an option in the New Track dialog, but I stopped showing that and don't know how to get it back. Thanks all!

I know I know, there are places to officially log feature requests, but never ever in my long life has a feature request I have ever suggested ever made it ever to any piece of software ever, so I'm basically just howling at the rain here. Apologies. You can skip. #1 Here is my workflow: I export a song that is in progress to audio, then copy the resulting mp3 to a Google Drive folder so that I can listen on my phone as I go about my day, jotting down a few notes for the next time I'm at the DAW. Half the time I do this, I then go off and later discover that only one track got exported, because that track happened to be selected at export time. Grrrr.... And when exporting I can't choose "Project" instead of "Selection" in my export because I have all kinds of crap in my project far off to the right of the real song, so I need to make a selection from the true start to end. It seems like it would be easy for Sonar to pop up a warning: "Your exported audio will not include all non-muted tracks. Are you sure you want to export?" Then there would be an option to cancel export, and another option "Include all non-muted tracks in exported audio." #2 - It also seems obvious that when I have selected some notes in PRV and want to drag them around or edit them somehow as a group , that I shouldn't have to put my mouse riiiiiiiiight over ONE of the notes in the group to drag it. Once the selection is made, I should just be able to drag anywhere within the "box" of selected notes. Same with editing velocities or lengths. If I simply want to change the length of a passage of very short notes, I'm required to first zoom in so that I can get the cursor over the right edge of one of the notes. I should just be able to treat the selection as a single thing. I'm thinking something like the Transform Tool box with the buttons on the borders. Thanks for indulging me.

This never happened with CbB... When I go to Commit an Arrangement to Project, Sonar is dropping entire sections seemingly at random. I've bouced to single clips, ensured that the sections start and end correctly, and it still will drop entire sections, even though I double checked they are in the arrangement. Has anyone else experienced this?

Since I "upgraded" from CbB to the new Sonar, I've had nothing but troubles and very little improvement. Most of my keyboard shortcuts are gone. I am not talking about the ones I created. Those I exported from CbB with a .kbn file and imported them and they work. I'm talking about what I thought were Cakewalk defaults. Ctrl-Shift-T from Transpose, Ctrl-Shift-B for Bounce to Clip. If they were custom, they would have imported in my .kbn. What's going on? Committing my arrangement to the project invariably leaves random sections out completely. I discovered this too late, and almost lost a lot of material. Using History I managed to revert to before I committed the arrangement, but so much work had been done since that I didn't want to lose, so I Saved a Copy As, thinking I would paste content I had almost lost to the newer project. Only then to discover that... Sonar only seems to be able to open a single project at a time. How can I copy notes from one project to another? It's just been on and on with Sonar frustrations. Am I the only one? Someone help please.

That's one way, also in my case Fn + S is the secret toggle switch.

@tparker24 Thanks! ChatGPT kept telling me that, but my laptop doesn't have a scroll lock key at all, so I ignored it. Now that a living person has told me the same thing, I went back to ChatGPT and asked it how to simulate Scroll Lock on a laptop without such a key, and it gave me the secret keystroke for scroll lock, and that did the trick. Ugh, and thanks again!

Yeah, well that's pretty cool. I've got nothing against all the beats in that kind of music, just personally not my taste, (and imo that disqualifies it from being called "ambient" :-)). To be more specific I'm really not a fan of those sub-basement frequencies, the ones that cut through the sheet metal of cars at stop lights, so that overrides a lot else for me. Setting aside my personal distaste for that sound, I still think it's occupying too much of the sonic energy. Maybe try taking that low bass down a few notches, and also maybe have it play fewer notes. I think it might be stealing focus from everything else. The pan flute melodic thing and other higher-up sounds seem like they are trying to create a kind of spiritual high altitude Himalayan atmosphere, but the percussion is working against that vibe, bringing it down into the club, so to speak. Does that even make sense? Anyway, thanks for sharing!

I noticed just yesterday that right around when the dog is whining there's also some sort of metallic scraping noise that sounds a lot like the dog. I was impressed that they connected those two sounds.

When I upgraded to Sonar, my playback no longer scrolls with the now time during playback in PRV. I've looked everywhere. I even upgraded to the latest update because it has a lot of PRV improvements. Anyone else facing this?

Thanks everybody! I'm excited to try things out. I'm also realizing the kinds of things I DON'T like in the ambient world. Pretty much anything pre-2000 is too synthy for my taste, so most of Eno is out. Beats are right out. Drone for drone sake is ok but feels like a cop-out. Direct improv-to-tape is out. I'm going to start by sampling some favorite moments from Star Trek (original series of course) which was all about the scores if you ask me. Maybe this'll be my Christmas vacation project!

For many years I've done almost exclusively orchestral and standard flavors of pop music, which Cakewalk and its plugins out of the box and EastWest Composer Cloud are all I've ever needed. Increasingly though, and especially in the last year or so, I've been drawn to ambient electronic music, the likes of Biosphere and Stars of the Lid and that sort of thing. I don't like beats, I'm only interested in the atmospheric ambient stuff. And I realize that this is a genre of music I have no experience creating. For me it's always been pianos and orchestras and rhythm sections. But I might be interested in exploring making it, at least seeing if I find that kind of composition interesting. I don't want to spend any money, not because I'm strapped, but because I don't know yet whether this will stick, and I'd like to try it out using Cakewalk and whatever I already have or can get for free. So how might I go about this with plenty of Cakewalk and music and digital audio chops, but otherwise being a complete novice? I'm assuming the answer is it all depends, and could be a combination of field recordings, libraries, creating sounds from scratch, and audio distortion plugins, but where do I even start, to come up with something I like?