PeterWalker87

I've changed / cloned my original hard drive (a 256Gb M2 2280 Gen1) to a 1Tb Samsung SSD SV850. I thought I'd try it out before reinstalling Cakewalk, the system has improved in performance, but was still not in synch. I played about with the Audio settings (which I've done numerous times since November 2022), and its now back in synch. Seems to be down to the WASPAPI drivers, they were putting on about 30msecs of latency to any recording. I've reverted to the WDM/KS driver and its working fine, fully locked in synch. I had tried this before and it hadn't worked previously. Many thanks for the help and support.

I'll try sometime in the next few days to do a full backup of my PC (clone disk), remove both Sonar and Cakewalk, and then reinstall Cakewalk. I'll post the results and see if it fixes the latency. It bugs me that the latency is on everything, i.e. two different audio devices and also the midi controller/keyboard. However, no such problem on my other DAW.

In my view, I've not really had difficulties with Cakewalk over the years. It has been pretty much rock solid. In the last couple of years if a bug cropt up, it has been usually been fixed in the subsequent update. The workflow is easy and I can get a project tracked, mixed and mastered fairly rapidly. For me, that last update has caused a fundemental flaw which makes it unworkable for the time being. I have tried since November to find a solution. The only thing left to is to fully uninstall and reinstall, which I'm quite reluctant to do as I don't want to lose work, setups or plugins. I still have Sonar Platinum installed, just in case it broke anything if I removed it.

The corruption was that the project refused to open after the program crash. I've not had it since.

I was recording audio in. On pressing record the audio engine stuttered and then stopped, the program crashed and came up with a unhandled exception and stated that cakewalk must close down. The project then wouldn't open. Fortunately I do regular backups of my working folders and was able to recover the project without too much rework.

I agree that the UA-25EX is old and obsolete and it was the first thing I replaced when I encountered the problem after the update. The New Behringer Audio interface works perfectly with other DAWs on my system and until the 2022.11 update the UA-25EX had worked with no glitches or problems for over 15 years, through the Sonar years and back onto Cakewalk. If the new one had issues it wouldn't work with the other DAW either, which has solid timing. When I hook up my USB Yamaha keyboard (which doesn't use the interfaces ) and record midi, I get the same latency problems with that as well. Cakewalk is not reliable on my system. All this gear works perfectly with another DAW. The same issue is on all the audio and midi interfaces, when using cakewalk According to the release notes, the last update made a fundemental change to the way the Audio drivers are utilised in Cakewalk. In my experience, big changes in software like this cause unforeseen problems. The point was that the development team work on the reported bugs and get some updates released. This won't be the only one. I've championed Cakewalk and Sonar for years and like the user friendly interface and simple easy to use structure. I just want it to work.

After using Cakewalk Pro Audio 9, Sonar and Cakewalk again, I've given up after the latest update. The system worked perfectly before 2022.11 update, but after that the latency is unworkable. I notice that its been a few months since they updated now, when before the 2022.11 update it was quite a regular occurance. Incidentally, I did read the 2022.11 release notes to see what was changed. I've tried all the audio driver settings, reinstalling the UA-25EX drivers, installing ASIOFORALL, uninstalling ASIO for all when it made no difference, rolling back the update, and using a new audio interface UMC204HD. All to no avail. The live recording latency is seemingly random, but I now have to drag everything back to the correct time. Before the 2022.11 update, this never happened. If I play with the Audio settings, I either get no audio on recording or a long pause, or a dropout. Its impossible to predict. Even if I can get it semi stable, on occasion it just keels over and stops. It doesn't seem to matter which Audio interface I use. I love the workflow in Cakewalk, and as a long term user from the early 90s I know how to use the DAW. Editing, Audio recording, tracking and midi are all straight forward and simple. You could use the lanes and record multiple takes with ease, and not lose any recording. Playback and mixing is fine, as well as the export facility, although I did have one project go corrupt recently, but was able to recover from a backup. The poor and unpredicatable latency simply kills it and makes recording almost impossible with Cakewalk. Whatever they have done, it affects the midi recording as well as the audio recording. I'm not able to get the system stable. I've tried to continue to use Cakewalk for the familiarity and ease of use, but I've got so frustrated I'm learning another DAW (which works fine and has no latency issue on the same system and audio interfaces), and porting over the numerous cakewalk projects . its good that Bandlab have kept cakewalk going and I really hope that they sort out these bugs, I think that it is the end of the line for me.