Jim Stamper

profwacko, No problem really, and thanks for your added info. Good luck to getting it working again.

profwacko .... I get it that you had a question, but I'm not sure why you tacked it on the original thread I started I think they call that hijacking a thread In any case, good luck getting your issue straightened out

I really appreciate all the comments above. But I wonder is Bandlab aware of the mixed messaging that appears when you go to the Bandlab home page? 1. Cakewalk doesn't appear on the home page. Until you click on Products. 2. Then off to the side, under "Other Products" you see "Cakewalk by Bandlab". If you click on that, you see "Cakewalk Sonar" in a splash titled "New Products Coming Soon". 3. Then clicking on "See More" gives you options to Explore Cakewalk Next or Explore Cakewalk Sonar "Available soon on Windows" 4. Click on Explore Cakewalk to finally see the statement: Available Now Via Bandlab Membership In summary, when a potential user goes to the Bandlab home page, they need to click another 4 levels deep to see that Sonar is Available Now ... while along the way being told that it's coming soon. I hope this mixed messaging will be addressed, and in my opinion a Sonar announcement deserves a spot right up front on the Bandlab home page Thanks!

Thanks Craig, much appreciated!

jfrommichigan ... I agree, it's a great DAW, and I don't think the marketplace views it as being a contender, or even in the game. Without adequate marketing, I'm worried about its future. Bakers - please understand this is meant to be positive & constructive opinion. Your hard work is much appreciated. Thanks

Thanks Jonathon and everyone for your responses. This is giving me a better feel for where it stands. As PWAL23 mentioned, maybe I'm somewhat hoping for something from "Cakewalk marketing peeps". I feel like the new Sonar has been tip toe-ing into the marketplace for quite awhile.

Hi Cakewalk Staff ... I'm looking for some sort of official statement on the status of Cakewalk Sonar. I have read this website https://www.cakewalk.com/sonar but otherwise I haven't seen any big announcements to the market that Sonar has been officially launched. When I search the internet a mish-mash of links about old versions, old pricing, or old transitions of Cakewalk. There are some links to the new Bandlab website and some links to the old Cakewalk website with some very outdated information. It's confusing even for a veteran user. Sorry, but this leaves me wondering if the product is now hardened, or is it still a bit "soft" and evolving as it has been over the past year, give or take. I've been using Cakewalk for roughly 30 years. I use it professionally and so I don't like to be an early user of a new product or even updates. I know it's 'available with a Bandlab membership' ... but I'd like to know if the product is still in some state of testing, or is this an official broad release that's ready for prime time? I'm not asking about long-term pricing, although that would certainly be of interest. Thanks!

Thanks David I have a pretty extensive background in PC hardware & software support and troubleshooting. I don't think the Bakers would be able to identify the problem without sitting at my exact PC. Because as mentioned, this has happened to me for years on different PCs & configurations & projects. I run only mainstream plug-ins, I keep everything up to date and as "standard" as possible, all of my software and hardware is new within 2 years. It's hard for me personally to believe it's a rare problem, although I'm sure not everyone has encountered it. Also it's possible it would take a tremendous amount of time for both me and the Bakers to work through it to a resolution. I don't want to go down that particular 'rabbit hole'. My suggestion is that an error message of "General Error" provides no clue on what might be happening or where to look for failure points. It's hardly more helpful than "catastrophic failure". Or those times when Cakewalk just stops running and exits to your desktop without warning - another problem some of us have seen on occasion. My hope is that the software could be improved to capture and report more detail about problems like this.

General Error when saving ... Yes, I can resolve it by playing the project for a few seconds, then Save is successful, every time. I'm just tired of this bug, I've been seeing it for years, on different projects, versions of Cakewalk, versions of Windows, PC's, hard drives. It usually happens on older projects, and then maybe 1 out of 5 times when I Save projects that are prone to it. I've never had it happen on any other app except Cakewalk. Obviously I'm not the only one, why is it still an issue after all these years? If Cakewalk generates this error, couldn't the error somehow be modified to capture some internal detail in order to better troubleshoot it?

Who would provide all the free effort to maintain bug fixes, releases for Windows updates, and new features?? I wouldn't bet my DAW on it ("too good to be true") I've only stayed with it this long due to familiarity and a catalog of legacy projects ever since the DOS days. I often update old projects. I bought "lifetime support" (another too good to be true) after talking to Craig Anderton at a conference . I've been hanging on by a thread ever since Bandlab takeover (free ... another too good to be true, nice while it lasted) Each big Cakewalk transition gives me more gray hair ??.

Thanks

I just installed the 2024.2 update following the update prompts starting with my CbB Help menu. I ran Setup, saw the red 'not activated yet' dialog box. I logged into my Bandlab account, saw an 'activation successful or complete' dialog box. Then I opened an old test project and it seems to play fine. I haven't yet tried to create any new work which would really test out the operation. So, I hope my installation is Okay. Only time will tell. One thing I'm not clear about is whether to uninstall the Bandlab Assistant app from my PC. I don't understand what happened with Pathfinder, but if Pathfinder missed something during the installation process ... then, hey we've all been there and done that, more than once, and gotten frustrated by it. I hope that Bandlab is taking a look to see if something in the process needs to be more clear. Anyway good luck Pathfinder going forward.

How long can I continue to use version: 2022.11 build 021? I have not updated yet ... watching the problems in this thread is concerning. I always have multiple projects in progress with commitments and deadlines, no time for downtime. Thanks

That is most excellent. Thank you all for being proactive and diligent. Jim

If I understand this issue correctly .... I thought it has existed by design for many years, not only in Cakewalk but most other DAWS, and is strictly the result of how you set your Pan Laws. Is there something else going on outside of the Pan Law settings?