Bass Guitar

What Im not understanding is that it seems like the only reason why you need to use VM software is to have control of different sources of audio within your computer system. Example is podcasts of video games or playing live from a Daw and at the same time you might be Talking or using multiple cameras etc. It seems to me instead of iffy software that doesn’t get along with your Daw in ASIO mode, that using an audio interface with Loopback is the best solution. Actually using any hardware to mix audio is the better solution. Example is my Zoom L8 is loaded with features for doing crazy things with computer audio. Including a Cell phone connection. The other key part is learning how to properly set up Windows and then for video OBS studio. OBS studio can access all your audio streaming from your computer. Using my Motu M4 or SSL2 with Loopback. : I get good results using my Loopback and inputs 1/2 of my interface as the feed to OBS. The Loopback will give me audio from Media player etc. The ASIO output of my Daw also goes there. Then my Mike is a separate channel into OBS how many mikes depending on how many channels your interface has. Most live input mixing can be done with OSB ‘s mixer. Sometimes I will adjust levels using the apps or Daw’s control. You can also open and use the Windows audio mixer. With my Zoom L8 I can run everything through that and use it for the mixer. Theres also 4 different monitor mixes say if you’re playing with 4 people live into the podcast or recording. Asio4 all And Voicemeeter are hold outs from the old school way of doing things. Why spend days fighting with crazy systems that don’t work well. Get the right hardware.

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It’s free! Try it out. The M Tuner alone is worth the time to set up the Melda free bundle. I’d say they make some of the best plugins out there. The compressor is my go to for a long time now.

I always wanted to try this. Keep up posted. It's sort of like using Midi guitar I guess. https://www.jamorigin.com/

Yet another example of what you will dig up in the GM midi graveyard.

Well you have had 5 days to read the user manual because that’s where it will explain how to set this up. This is not a Sonar issue. This is understanding how to use the hardware.

The sample rate will do that but the bit depth doesn’t matter. You can have any bit rate happening. Something might be going wrong with OBS because I now can’t stream using my Loopback from any Daw using ASIO. It always worked fine before. As said almost every Audio interface made runs at 24 and most cannot be changed. It’s burned into the converters I guess. Zoom and Steinberg I think are the only ones that I have seen that allows you to change and use 16, 24 and 32.

It’s like the amount of plugins that are labeled “Lofi. It took me a while to figure out that means Low Fidelity. And those people are probably recording at 96 or 192 clocks so they can capture every nuance of that Low Fidelity

Getting back to the OP question. I did a little more research and it seems like the concept of GM VST player has almost vanished from the face of the earth. Roland- they removed the TTS-1 and the Virtual Sound Canvas last year in the fall. A strange coincidence? All they offer now as software is a none GM Synths like Zenology. It’s free but you will need to load 16 instances of it to access all midi channels. GM playback is included in the majority of Roland hardware pianos and synths. I used the Search Googling “ Multi Timbral -GM –VST - Sound Font player and it comes up with a zillion dead ends. The dead ends are mostly super funky super outdated, supper flaky, 32 bit and so on solutions. Seems sound font players are always None GM and only one instrument at a time. That's why I question staff directing people at Sfonando? It's not multitimbral and it is not GM by default. It's about the most convoluted instrument to use on the planet. This is it folks, after 6 hours of looking-- the one I already mentioned. VST SynthFont 64. https://www.synthfont.com/ it is 15 euros. free to try. VST 2 and 3 versions. I have used it in Cakewalk for about 2 years now instead of the TTS-1 to avoid TTS-1 crashes. There is also Coyote https://coyotemidi.com/ is free and works flawlessly in Sonar. But only Sonar, Reaper and Band in a Box support DXi. ( for now) but I also use this a lot and it doesn't crash either. I only use it sparingly because it's Dxi. Worth a mention is Airs Xpand 2 https://www.airmusictech.com/virtual-instruments/xpand-2/ Pro Tool free version https://www.avid.com/pro-tools/intro includes a free license to Air’s Xpand2. Xpand2 is one of my favorite multi channel synths. It’s only 4 channels which is good enough for me! Best Horn section on the planet! Between Xxpand2 and the SI instruments you've got a lot of instruments! Here's a list of the Daw's that include instant GM playback. The rest require manually adding instruments. Like Sonar is now. Ardour and Harrison using Fluid synth Cakewalk Next but many sounds are not GM. Cubase using Halion ( terrible ) FL studio using Fruity LSD Mixcraft using Acoustica instruments Studio One using Presence XT I finally got an answer regarding the MS Wavetable synth. Cakewalk was absolutely correct about it's removal. According to a Microsoft article it is being fazed out and they have sort of archived it and this made it unavailable to major Daw's. It still works with other none professional software like Media player. I noticed it still is working with a few Midi players, JjazzLab and Chord Pulse.

Yes why are you waisting time trying to use way outdated technology. Even though the TTS-1 is old it’s currently 64 bit therefore still works with out fuss in all 64 bit versions of Sonar. And it definitely retains all settings in the project. Actually we question the sanity of choosing to even use GM sounds when there are many options for much better sounding VST instruments of which many are free.

@Amberwolf the repair tech first thought that it was probably just the first stages of the power system but as he found they had taken a few shortcuts and the power went directly to a circuit board and fried a bunch of IC. In those days it would have cost more than it was worth to repair. I bought an MT32 and a Roland PS 200 controller. The Korg probably was disposed of quickly. The MT32 to me was a huge upgrade because back then synths like the Poly 800 didn’t sound “right “ to us. Example the Piano patch didn't sound at all like a piano. And the bass I had used was a classic synth bass that also sounded very different from a normal bass. So the MT-32 was considered top notch sound back then. As it is those are the same sounds of the MSWavetable and the TTS-1. I still have the MT-32 at the bottom of a box of junk somewhere. I also have the original Sound Canvas. But my favourite is the Korg 05R/W. That replaced the MT-32 and was my “band “for a long time. There’s no point in using the MT-32 but the stupid thing refuses to die. At least the Poly 800 would still have some value. Later someone gave me a Korg D5000? which was a lot like the Poly 800 i had it for a while but I gave it to a guy who liked that stuff. By then I had lots of great VST Poly synths. I’d rather have the smaller rack versions. Keyboards take up a lot of space.

Funny this topic has come up because I randomly have watched a few of his videos and my very first thought was?? He’s using stem separation? Stem Separation is not the multi track? How can he accurately analyze the material? This is total BS. Oh well I guess like many people who make a living off You Tube he’s found a following. Then he picked on the Greystones saying that they were lip sinking live and using auto correct! Their audio guy immediately called him out and explained that they were actually singing live , didn’t use auto tune but they did do some overdubs of parts that sucked and at no point denied that they did that. It’s pretty common practice to edit live performance videos this way. The kids even started posting videos of themselves demonstrating how they actually did know how to play and sing . Phil had egg on his face and quickly removed the video. He apologized. I had to laugh because I myself have often recorded live performances and then completely redone the audio because it was kinda crappy. Why not? His last video I watched was accusing John Fogarty of using AI on anew album. He used live recordings to demonstrate the difference in sound??? WTF? How on earth do you compare a studio recording to a Cell phone rip run through crappie stem separation software?? And why do we even care! Even Jimmy Buffets huge concerts in his final years you can tell are a mix of live and tracks. Take note that Rodger the drummer is wearing headphones. I think it’s pretty much necessary to do this when you have the multi media screen running. You see all sorts of stuff like teleprompters and now everyone has in ears. It’s show business people. And the fans are having a blast! The music is great and consistent concert to concert. Jimmy is still singing and you can hear the bad notes. He is the first person to admit that he is not a great singer! But he was one of the best entertainers in the industry. My guess is that the Eagles might suck a little on those high notes these days. I know I do! But compared to Jimmy they are totally boring to watch.

This never used to happen in the past 15 year for me. I’ve always been able to do anything I want and run multiple apps. I always disable the allow this device to have exclusive access to the Audio Device. This in the last 4 months on W11 now seems broken. All my Daw’s have ASIO issues if I fire them up after I have been using other apps. And the other thing now broken is OBS studio won’t recognize my Daw’s output via Loopback? Theres been a few posts on this , Mixcraft and Studio 1 forums that people are getting audio cracking or distortion on systems that never behaved this way. And these people are using RME, Focusrite or Motu interfaces. W11 has done something. I get that message you are showing just about every time I start Sonar Platinum. Other Daw’s also are showing similar warnings. It’s seems to me like the change to the way W11 Home shows the Audio system options is not working correctly. W10 it is much clearer.

Speaking of Power Supplies. It was probably around 1986. I was slowly building my midi rig. A guitar player friend had paid $1,200 for a Korg Poly 800 and offered to trade me for my 1968 Fender Twin. I was tired of lugging it around! I figured I had made a super good deal! The Poly 800 served as my Bass player. My drums were a Roland 505 I still own and use. One day I was setting up my rig at home and I accidentally got the ends of the power supplies mixed up! The Korg went up in a puff of smoke! The Roland was fine. Turns out the Korg used reverse polarity. The technician told me that all that was needed by the Korg was a 25 cent Diode that would have stopped the reverse polarity current from getting past the power input Jack. He figured that a lot of IC chips were smoked. So that was the end of a $1,200 Analog Synth. Since that day I have carefully labeled all my power supplies both on the wall wart and at the Jack. The good news is that I now have the Free Fury 800 VST plug in that’s a great replacement. But it is weird how theirs no standard end Jack for power supply’s that would block you from making the mistake I made still to this day. I wonder if @Annabelle is still using Sonar 8.5? That would have the TTS-1.

Interfaces that include DSP all can record wet. And many that have software mixers can send one input to more than one Daw track. Even if they don’t it’s pretty easy to split you signal into two different cables going in. My Zoom L8 as example can record directly from any of the 8 inputs and can also record the Wet signal from the master output. But that’s hardware. The OP is asking about ITB recording probably related to using a Guitar sim. As said it is possible using AUX tracks. Another Possibly is arming a second audio track and selecting your audio interfaces Loopback as the input to the track. How well that works will depend on your interfaces Loopback routing options.