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Thanks for straightening this out for me David. Much appreciated. - Dan

Speaking specifically about Project Templates, I find that I can create and save project templates but they are never visible to me in the SONAR start screen. The other handful of templates that ship by default with SONAR are displayed but any that I create are not. And yet, I put my templates in the same folder. This one: Cakewalk Content/Cakewalk Core/Project Templates. I can navigate to this folder and load a template, but the start screen refuses to display them. Confusing...

I too am a loyal customer since 1991 (Cakewalk for DOS). It occurred to me last September we will probably never see anything beyond a subscription model for SONAR. I think it's a great program as it stands today and decided go for it. I am not regretful. In my estimation, the subscription isn't more expensive than the cost of upgrading to newer releases every year or 18 months. Admittedly, subscribers are beholden to the company for as long as they use the product and can't opt out without saying goodbye to SONAR forever. But the fact we've both been using the product for well over 30 years strongly suggests we're not the type to jump ship anyway. Of course, I don't make a living as a record producer using SONAR (or anything else). If I did, the considerations would be vastly different.

Wow! A lot has happened since I've been away. Many thanks to everyone who helped get to the bottom of this. Much appreciated. - D

Thanks... Will do. - Daniel

Also, thanks Colin. I wasn't aware 2024.12 was available. I was using 2024.11. I've just updated to 2024.12 but the problem (as shown in my video above) still persists.

If the note pane is open (it doesn't matter how much, as long as it's not completely closed), then the effect disappears. That being the case (like before), the workaround is to just open the note pane slightly. Still, its a bug, and it shouldn't be happening.

I reported a bug last month where, when using a Drum Map, the velocity lane shrunk horizontally when the drum map itself was expanded vertically. That was fixed in the last version, but... now it seems to have returned in a new form. When you click on any existing note (to move it or to sound it), each time you do it , the velocity lane shrinks vertically until it disappears. As before, this does not happen if the midi keyboard lane is open, even a tiny bit. Please see video. Anyone care to confirm? Screen Recording 2024-12-10 132206.mp4

IMHO, moving to another DAW would be an enormous pain. If one is proficient at the many features of CbB, then moving to Cakewalk Sonar is completely painless. I actually found it to be a positive, enjoyable experience. My advice... get a year's subscription and don't look back.

I occasionally have this problem too. I am always able to fix it with Ctrl-Alt-Del and then simply cancelling the "sign-out/change user" window that pops up. When the Sonar screen returns the cursor behaves normally again. Don't ask me why. Magic.

Thanks. I have submittet a bug fix request.

When using the scroll wheel to widen or narrow a drum map midi track (horizontally), the velocity window (if opened) will concurrently narrow (vertically) until it disappears. This happens regardless of the method used to zoom horizontally. But... if you open the keyboard midi window too, no matter how little (as long as it's not completely closed), this behavior stops. I don't think this is intended.

I was a CwB user from day one. In order to get Bandlab Sonar, I paid full price for a one year membership on Aug 31. I've never once received any offer from Bandlab (either before or since) for any discount whatsoever. I'm not complaining. Just saying. I'm quite happy with the product.

Agreed. I accepted reality about two weeks ago and moved up to the New Sonar. I quite like it. No looking back. - Dan

Good suggestion, but it makes no difference, pre or post. I think you are correct. It was wrong of me to think the bus was somehow sounding "through" the guitar track. In order for the the guitar track to be soloed, its effects must also function or it isn't truly a solo . In order for that to happen the vocal bus must be 'active' too. That means you will hear it through the master. I guess it's unreasonable to expect Sonar to know that when a track's effect is side chained to a bus it should be aware to also mute the bus (and yet, still feed it to the side chain) when the track is soloed. I think the mystery is solved. The use of aux tracks is probably the best the way to go in these situations. My thanks to you both for helping me to think this through and improve my understanding.