MusicMan

You might already own it too. It was also given away free a while ago if I recall correctly.

I gave this one a demo a while ago and was pretty sceptical, but found I actually quite liked it. I didn't buy it yet and it's been around $30 a few times, but I might pick it up in a bundle, or if/when it goes lower. If I didn't already own the OG wideband version, then I would've grabbed it.

Yeah it definitely shouldn't have even been a thing. But I also have a lot of respect for IK for changing that. Installers the majority of them seem to suck. I HATE Softube's. They try and charge $1000 for the Weiss Complete bundle and then are too lazy to even give you options in their installer to stop installing AAX and VST2.! They literally waste a heap of gigabytes and plugin scan times (and sometimes those VST2 /AAX cause issues and crashes during scans) for things I'll never use. I refuse to buy their Volume for that reason alone, as it would reinstall even more every update. The worst part is I don't even need their installer to do more.. I need it literally to do less! Also on a secondary laptop I use that doesn't have much space at times, if I want to update something like Tape, which is only under 100MB, it says there's not enough space until there's around 10GB! It's like they do a space check for every single plugin they make, if you were installing everything at once, instead of just what you're installing 🤣

I'm a bit the same Pat. I collect them like Pokemon, but don't tend to use them (or sometimes even install them!). I've heard a couple are OK and this might be for something different. Hornet on the other hand has some pretty decent plugins in the range. It's easy to overlook them, but some I really like. Totally different quality between those two devs. 2B is another one I just claim and collect though 🤣

installers and activations aren't really their strength.. If they completely overhauled their installer instead of focusing on new plugins as much, it would probably gain them a lot of sales.

All explained in my reply: "I believe he means the fear of them going sub only". Waves basically tried to change the model meaning that everyone that had bought perpetual licenses would never be able to buy, or update them again. Subscription was their only option. It failed horribly for them and was a branding disaster. Their CEO had to backflip 3 days or so later and reverse it and issue a public apology. It was a Waves Fiasco 🤣

I believe he means the fear of them going sub only, AKA the Waves Fiasco...

Only works for TS 4 Max owners and should already be in their account for them.

We don't have that sort of patience around here

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You would be best logging in to IK directly and seeing if you have the $100 voucher when upgrading. You should. That should bring it down to $99

You qualify for Maxgrade, which is basically going from any MAX product.

I've never paid WUP and still have one cheap upgrade that I could maybe do if I needed to update, but I'm not sure I would bother either. I do have Horizon, as it was so cheap and a lot cheaper than WUP would cost me!

I think it's generally cheaper getting a custom upgrade quote from Audio Deluxe etc. though.

It really is unless you tap out! They actually do make some half decent plugins though, so it's slightly in jest, but also true 🤣 I really would love to see them drop WUP and sales boost for them for doing the right thing. I think they would gain so many more sales. The recent freebie bundle from them at least shows that while they still probably have their heads firmly stuck in sand, they might at least be open to some change.