Brian Walton Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 (edited) 9 hours ago, Carlos said: Someone saved me the effort: The actual title is aptly named. But hat doesn't prove your point at all. Over saturated tone is being EQ'd by the speakers/cabinet. Any competent guitarist knows this. The amp and settings itself is fundamental in getting good tone out of either speaker. Did he massively alter the amp settings to compensate for the EQ curve differences in the amp? He didn't, and I'd argue the tone itself was fairly equal between the two examples, just different. Tone can be judged on quality of the sound, and honestly the tone in the video is not very good in any of the examples. Try the same test with amps setup properly to produce good dynamic tone with a solid fundamental through the same speaker and you can start to hear which amp is more dynamic and rich in tonal complexity. No argument that the speaker matters in the EQuing of the tone shape and the overall quality of the tone, but it isn't the #1 driver for quality. If you are dealing with horrible metal tone, then yeah, I'd put more emphasis on the final EQ and qualities a speaker gives, just like the video demonstrates. Edited December 13, 2019 by Brian Walton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 2 hours ago, Brian Walton said: ... The amp and settings itself is fundamental in getting good tone out of either speaker ... Try the same test with amps setup properly to produce good dynamic tone with a solid fundamental through the same speaker and you can start to hear which amp is more dynamic and rich in tonal complexity. No argument that the speaker matters in the EQuing of the tone shape and the overall quality of the tone, but it isn't the #1 driver for quality. ... Thanks mate, you proved it (no fingers applied). Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byron Dickens Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 (edited) Fat fingered. Nevermind. Edited December 13, 2019 by Byron Dickens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zo Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 I vote for an Amplitube Bapu !! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashay Arekar Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 What is it with amps and pedals that gets everyone so zealous..... 🤔 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cclarry Posted December 14, 2019 Author Share Posted December 14, 2019 1 hour ago, Zo said: I vote for an Amplitube Bapu !! It comes with ten millions plugins built in!!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAL Music Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 Maybe with the introduction of Joe Satriani, we can get a discount deal on Brian May being it's no longer the newest one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grem Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 Stach has some of the most recognizable sounds coming out of his gear, no matter what he uses. To get some of that tone requires IK to model a amp I can get out of Walmart makes no difference to me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Russ Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 On 12/12/2019 at 12:16 PM, Peter - IK Multimedia said: I also offered my modded and custom pedals, too, but nobody wanted AmpliTube UIKG Don't laugh, but I'd be more interested in that than the Satch pack. Don't get me wrong, he's an extraordinary player with perfectly good tone. Most of his amps and pedals, though, aren't that much different from what Amplitube already offers. That's the reason I suggested the Nels Cline pack. It doesn't matter if you are in awe of his playing or are someone who has never heard of him or Wilco. There's some good stuff in his rig that's worth having that isn't already in Amplitube, and that's way more interesting to me than trying to get any specific player's sound. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter - IK Multimedia Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 (edited) On 12/13/2019 at 11:51 PM, Magic Russ said: Don't laugh, but I'd be more interested in that than the Satch pack. Don't get me wrong, he's an extraordinary player with perfectly good tone. Most of his amps and pedals, though, aren't that much different from what Amplitube already offers. That's the reason I suggested the Nels Cline pack. It doesn't matter if you are in awe of his playing or are someone who has never heard of him or Wilco. There's some good stuff in his rig that's worth having that isn't already in Amplitube, and that's way more interesting to me than trying to get any specific player's sound. I'm not laughing, I'm flattered! I really do like my "P-Fuzz" custom pedal. It is a Pfeiffer O-Fuzz but with additional functions and left very hot like the original O-Fuzz before they tamed it (and also had sent out or installed a fix for those wimps who thought it was too over the top... boo!). Speaking of Wilco, I am a huge Parks and Recreation fan and was laughing my azz off when I saw Jeff Tweedy playing the role of a local musician. Also happy to see Letters To Cleo, as I know most of those folks from my Boston days. But I digress... Edited December 16, 2019 by Peter - IK Multimedia silly censor! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soundwise Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 Can't believe I missed this thread! Although I'm not Satch's captain fan, his influence on the guitar world is undeniable. If we can't have every piece of gear he listed, then it's best to provide models that are not yet a part of Amplitube or any collection. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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