Bapu 6,741 Posted March 27 Sonny Bono said it best; "And the beat goes on". 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sergio 334 Posted March 27 1 hour ago, Johnbee58 said: This wasn't a mistake on their part. They knew exactly what they were doing and expected the backlash. What they want is to lose the "Home Recordist" market and just serve the pros. The pros can afford $300.00 a month. "Bedroom engineers" can't. In the end what matters is the money. I have the impression that there are many more Home Recordists than pros. And I assume that those pros are among the WUPing crowd so the income they generate will not change much. If after this change Waves see a drop in their income I think they'll reconsider, as PA did in the past for instance. From my part I'm a Windows user and I never paid WUP for my plugins. The only thing I did was upgrade my bundles (or upgrade to bundles) and in the process I updated the included plugins. I still have plugins from version 9 to 14 and all of them install and run in Windows 10. I'll keep using then while I can and if they ever stop running then I'll choose whatever else I can find. I have no intention to subscribe to any Waves plan. The only subscription I keep is the Roland Cloud but just because I can keep one plugin per year. From my POV I'm buying the plugin for the same price or less and getting one year of cloud access as a free gift 🙂 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Billy86 124 Posted March 27 I got into Waves when I first started, and I have a ton of their plugs, starting with the entire Abbey Road collection. But, I'm done with them. Going to subscription is one thing -- seems more and more of the big developers are -- but screwing current longtime users with no way to stay current UNLESS you fork over $150 minimum for a limited number of products compared to the $250/year for access to them all via subscription? Nope. Buh-bye. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tomgu 198 Posted March 27 9 hours ago, Tomgu said: I would appreciate if they WUP'd all the existing licenses. I have so many different versions that installing them is a mess (which is Waves' fault). I just sent them an email asking for this, nicely. Next up: I'll buy the winning lottery ticket :) 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
balinas 450 Posted March 27 Well, it seems that I am done with Waves. Their stuff isn't that great that I need to pay for it over and over again. I have a few of their plugins, but I have noticed that I have used them less over the last 2 years. In some respects, this whole thing I call "life" is just a subscription in that on some level, I can't take it with me. We all say that, but do we really know? Some subscriptions in life I will continue to keep paying for like breathing, eating and enjoying the sunshine. But other things like a Waves subscription plan? I will let that one go. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Martin H. 32 Posted March 27 Nothing seems lost. I came across this on the Waves website under ''Contact Us'' : 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fleer 10,800 Posted March 27 Gilad? From Gilead? Margaret Atwood beware. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Billy86 124 Posted March 27 27 minutes ago, Martin H. said: Nothing seems lost. I came across this on the Waves website under ''Contact Us'' : Funny. I DID contact them to let them know I was done if they're going to screw longtime current users; maybe enough (ex) users are piling into their email boxes. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carlos Iglesias 422 Posted March 27 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Martin H. said: Nothing seems lost. I came across this on the Waves website under ''Contact Us'' : I sincerely do not care what they do, I will use their plugins until they stop working, but I will not update more. Edited March 27 by Carlos Iglesias 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
simon 2,965 Posted March 27 FWIW that statement by Gilad Keren has been there for years - it wasn't put there because of the current fiasco 1 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Billy86 124 Posted March 27 1 hour ago, lawajava said: Wow - that forum read is a party! Everyone venting directly on Waves’ own forum. A lot of mad customers! It is fun there! Just added my fun to the collective bail of Waves users... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fwrend 500 Posted March 27 (edited) 56 minutes ago, Tomgu said: I just sent them an email asking for this, nicely. I like this idea though I would have the same expectations as you. But, nothing wrong with letting them know civilly our frustration. I was secretly hoping we’d see an offer of trying the full subscription allowing all of our perpetual licenses to be fully updated even after canceling - even if they required 6 months to a year (including the two free months 🙂) Of course, I like dreaming! Edited March 27 by Fwrend 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
abacab 8,029 Posted March 27 I suppose today would be a great opportunity for all of Waves competitors to open the floodgates of "special" sales!!! 🤣 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lionel 250 Posted March 27 I’m not holding my breath for Waves to reverse course. Even if they do, I’m not sure I can trust them to give them any more of my money. Fool me once. I’m moving forward with UA, PA, IK and especially the smaller devs. Speaking of smaller devs, who are your faves? And which plugins in particular are your go-to’s? Very much would like to know. For me; Melda: Love their pitch shifter and MCompare Valhalla: All of their plugs are amazing. But I keep reaching for their delays Audio Damage: Awesome developer. Love Filterstation, EOS 2 and Kombinat Tri D16: It’s like Pokémon... “Gotta catch ‘em all!” They’re that good! 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BTP 506 Posted March 27 22 minutes ago, abacab said: I suppose today would be a great opportunity for all of Waves competitors to open the floodgates of "special" sales!!! 🤣 I just got an email from Purafied Audio: "WAVE goodbye to plugin subscriptions". 2 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patrick Wichrowski 426 Posted March 27 https://www.change.org/p/waves-goodbye 2 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jacques Boileau 1,310 Posted March 27 36 minutes ago, abacab said: I suppose today would be a great opportunity for all of Waves competitors to open the floodgates of "special" sales!!! 🤣 Some do, just received this 🙂: 8 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PavlovsCat 3,635 Posted March 27 17 minutes ago, Jacques Boileau said: Some do, just received this 🙂: I can only respect Waves' competitors for seizing the opportunity to promote that they don't force their customers into subscriptions or even do an Update Plan type program (Waves previous less than embraced strategy for ongoing revenue from its customers). I think it will appeal to many former Waves customers who feel burned right now. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lionel 250 Posted March 27 4 hours ago, abacab said: Popcorn time. User reaction to the announcement over at the Waves forum... https://forum.waves.com/t/introducing-waves-creative-access/6850 Holy crap! Checked it out... Now that's what I call an uproar! Would love to be a fly on the wall at those Waves Execs meetings, lol They'd have to be complete idiots not to bring back perpetual licenses and WUP Also, check out: https://www.facebook.com/waves Lots of angry folks there as well 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
