cclarry Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 Extra discount with code GROUP https://www.jrrshop.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=Addictive+Drumns&order=relevance&dir=desc 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abacab Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 XLN needs to come up with some new stuff. Their sales used to generate enthusiasm around here! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cclarry Posted March 10, 2023 Author Share Posted March 10, 2023 18 minutes ago, abacab said: XLN needs to come up with some new stuff. Their sales used to generate enthusiasm around here! That's why I ditched them. Their Development is really poor IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffdrawscomics Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 1 hour ago, cclarry said: That's why I ditched them. Their Development is really poor IMO What did you switch to, Larry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abacab Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 1 hour ago, cclarry said: Their Development is really poor IMO I would qualify that statement to say that "their new product development is poor". The existing XLN programs still work very well, and they are frequently offered maintenance updates by the developers. Just a lack of new products or content for existing customers to look forward to... 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluzdog Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 5 minutes ago, abacab said: I would qualify that statement to say that "their new product development is poor". The existing XLN programs still work very well, and they are frequently offered maintenance updates by the developers. Just a lack of new products or content for existing customers to look forward to... I concur, while they don't lend themselves well to gas, their plugs always work well and the sounds are legit. I'm pretty sure I'm all caught up on drum samples at the moment. 😆 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Russ Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, abacab said: I would qualify that statement to say that "their new product development is poor". The existing XLN programs still work very well, and they are frequently offered maintenance updates by the developers. Just a lack of new products or content for existing customers to look forward to... I'd even qualify that to say that the rate of new development for AD is poor. I love RC-20 and the more recent drum kits of theirs are not bad at all. Besides, how many drum kits do you need anyway? Edited March 10, 2023 by Magic Russ 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abacab Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 13 minutes ago, Magic Russ said: Besides, how many drum kits do you need anyway? I have a decent XLN collection, but I installed EZdrummer 3 just to be safe!!! 😂 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abacab Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 And I also picked up MODO Drum in a past Total Studio deal... but I prefer AD2 or EZD3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jngnz Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 Do yourselves a favour and never try BFD or SD because going back to AD2 or Modo Drum is like going back to toys and nothing will ever be the same. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canopus Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 déjà vu noun dé·jà vu ˌdā-zhä-vü -ˈvᵫ 1 b: a feeling that one has seen or heard something before 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Call Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 (edited) On 3/10/2023 at 10:44 AM, jngnz said: Do yourselves a favour and never try BFD or SD because going back to AD2 or Modo Drum is like going back to toys and nothing will ever be the same. Edited out, sorry, I was on drugs (not really). Edited March 13, 2023 by Last Call 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluzdog Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 2 hours ago, abacab said: I have a decent XLN collection, but I installed EZdrummer 3 just to be safe!!! 😂 I'm controversial, sometimes I let EZdrummer play the sounds in AD2. 😆 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abacab Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 Bottom line is that nobody listening to your music will know what drums you used in a mix. It all comes down to whatever is easiest for your workflow. If it sounds good, it is good! 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluzdog Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 2 hours ago, Last Call said: Do yourselves a favour and never try BFD I have BFD but got tired of fighting with it. Most of my content doesn't show up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pragi Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, jngnz said: Do yourselves a favour and never try BFD or SD because going back to AD2 or Modo Drum is like going back to toys and nothing will ever be the same. The sound quality of the Bfd 3 cymbals is unreached , but the workflow of BFD is not as half as good as of AD . Some kits if AD drums without presets and fx are ga very good basic and AD offers a good easy workflow , imo .not bad at all. Imo the user unfriendly upgrade options from Toontrack SD 2 to 3 , fron EX 1 to 2 aso is a no go,because they don' t offer upgrade options. . Edited March 10, 2023 by Pragi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Call Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, abacab said: Bottom line is that nobody listening to your music will know what drums you used in a mix. It all comes down to whatever is easiest for your workflow. If it sounds good, it is good! I would usually agree with this kind of comment , and still, in a way you're right, but quality still projects in a mix: In my example GGD is full of fizzy harshness, usually on the high end, in the cymbals, drums have no weight, even when their samples are super compressed or limited. Mixwave is not that bad, maybe in some genres you could get away with it (they just released a Benny Greb kit but judging by the past I am not gonna bother) Analog Drums don't deserve a comment nor NDK (2006 library). Addictive Drums have no weight either, I mean the snares. Toms sound like I am hitting my desk with anything. Cymbals are just ***** compared to SD3. Maybe some kick drum is salvageable. And in SD3 SOME toms in the direct mikes sound so weak... not even a limiter saves them. Still SD wins for me. Haven't tested more because it's tiresome, lol (Forgot some Legacy Drums that are absolute garbage, Wavesfactory or something ) Edited March 10, 2023 by Last Call Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abacab Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Last Call said: I would usually agree with this kind of comment , and still, in a way you're right, but quality still projects in a mix: In my example GGD is full of fizzy harshness, usually on the high end, in the cymbals, drums have no weight, even when their samples are super compressed or limited. Those are things that can be fixed in the mix. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 What I liked about XLN is their kits include their sound engine where EZ kits do not without the basic kit. Collecting Toontrack is pricey. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Call Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 4 hours ago, abacab said: Those are things that can be fixed in the mix. How do you fix a snare with no weight (body) ? I sometimes give it a try with an eq and compressor or limiter, but it just sounds worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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