X-53mph Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 (edited) Not a deal: This is a request. Does anyone know of any MIDI grooves that could work with either BFD 3 or Addictive Drums tambourines? I'm looking for some great tambourine variations, perhaps a little bit groovy or Mazzy Star like. Something that sounds real, without sounding too much like a machine. Thanks for any help. Edited February 20, 2023 by Philip G Hunt 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canopus Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 (edited) I’ve got every MIDIpak (and ADpak) in AD2. When I search for “tambourine” on the Beats tab I get six matches, five of which are located in the “Indie Rock” MIDIpak. There’s a note saying that they should be used with the Indie ADpak. When I use that kit it all sounds pretty tambourinish to me. But hey, what do I know about tambourines? Edited February 20, 2023 by Canopus 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X-53mph Posted February 20, 2023 Author Share Posted February 20, 2023 @Canopus yeah I found those, but they are not very inspiring or varied. I was hoping for something with a bit more variation or syncope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antler Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 The problem with tambourines (and shakers) is that they're quite hard to do with samples and MIDI, just because of the way that all of the elements that make sound interact with each other. Maybe have you considered something like: https://klevgrand.com/products/skaka or (though more expensive) https://insessionaudio.com/products/shimmer-shake-strike-2/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Walton Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, antler said: The problem with tambourines (and shakers) is that they're quite hard to do with samples and MIDI, just because of the way that all of the elements that make sound interact with each other. Maybe have you considered something like: https://klevgrand.com/products/skaka This was the first thing that came to mind. 2nd is Jamcussion if someone happens to also have a Jamstix plugin. I've never tried to control that specifically, but have generated a few as part of a larger "jamcussion" groove where a tambourine is included as an element. Edited February 21, 2023 by Brian Walton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 This is where loops can be your friend. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluzdog Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 Idk.......I think it's easier to just set up a mic and work out a part. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finnbogi Ragnar Ragnarsson Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 Generate the grooves with Jamstix and Jamcussion add on. Groove monkey, Yummybeats, Looploft have midi or audio that can be converted to midi with Melodyne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mesh Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulo Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 1 hour ago, bluzdog said: Idk.......I think it's easier to just set up a mic and work out a part. I find that understanding that nobody at all is even going to notice the tambourine part helps me. "What I really love about that song was the imaginative playing of the tambourine" said Nobody Ever. 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jude77 Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 This one is a bit pricey ($60), but worth a look. It has some rhythms to get you started, and you can program your own. https://www.wavesfactory.com/kontakt-libraries/sharine/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemar Sain Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 Independence free (was Yellowtools now Magix) has a really good tambourine library. with triggerable loops and playable sounds. https://www.magix.com/ca/music-editing/free-download/independence-free-sampler-software/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Walton Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 4 hours ago, paulo said: I find that understanding that nobody at all is even going to notice the tambourine part helps me. "What I really love about that song was the imaginative playing of the tambourine" said Nobody Ever. I bet people notice if the part is played really poorly and off-beat. Thus the legitimacy of wanting MIDI/some program to do it for us. I know I tried recording a shaker part a couple times that sounded so awful it was distracting. 😁 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulo Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 26 minutes ago, Brian Walton said: I bet people notice if the part is played really poorly and off-beat. Thus the legitimacy of wanting MIDI/some program to do it for us. I know I tried recording a shaker part a couple times that sounded so awful it was distracting. 😁 Yeah, I was referring more to the idea of the part being "inspiring" or not and the fact that we are probably all bit guilty at times of obsessing on the minutiae that 99.9% of listeners won't even notice. I usually use one of the loops that come with CW, the Groovemate One freebie from UJAM or just play something in myself and then tidy up the midi as required. I have been known to stick a flanger on the track which helps to make it sound less repetitive. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byron Dickens Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Brian Walton said: I bet people notice if the part is played really poorly and off-beat. Thus the legitimacy of wanting MIDI/some program to do it for us. I know I tried recording a shaker part a couple times that sounded so awful it was distracting. 😁 Well, there is this new, cutting-edge technology you could try called "practice...." Edited February 21, 2023 by Byron Dickens 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X-53mph Posted February 21, 2023 Author Share Posted February 21, 2023 5 hours ago, paulo said: I find that understanding that nobody at all is even going to notice the tambourine part helps me. "What I really love about that song was the imaginative playing of the tambourine" said Nobody Ever. This made me laugh. 😆I know what you mean. However, I can think of a few songs where the tambourine is integral to the groove, and a so-so tambourine playing would have ruined the track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X-53mph Posted February 21, 2023 Author Share Posted February 21, 2023 In the end I used 5 different vst instruments all playing tiny variations on the tambourine. The end result is quite pleasing. It sounds almost natural. Perhaps I should just buy a tambourine 😆 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Walton Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Byron Dickens said: Well, there is this new, cutting-edge technology you could try called "practice...." Must be nice to have the free time to actually play instruments and not just collect VSTs that never get used. Edited February 21, 2023 by Brian Walton 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALC Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 (edited) UJAM Groovemate ONE mentioned before is currently on sale at Plugin Boutique for $11. https://www.pluginboutique.com/product/1-Instruments/64-Virtual-Instrument/7575-Groovemate-ONE Edited February 21, 2023 by ALC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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