aidan o driscoll 995 Posted November 11, 2022 (edited) A set of brand new plugins from AIR MUSIC TECH - 8 in all https://www.airmusictech.com/ "8 incredible new plugins developed by AIR for the award-winning Akai Professional MPC platform are now available for your DAW in VST/AU/AAX formats." Edited November 11, 2022 by aidan o driscoll 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
simon 2,965 Posted November 11, 2022 (edited) InMusic - avoid (IMO!) EDIT: just checked the price ! - double avoid Edited November 11, 2022 by simon 3 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hurricane 18 Posted November 11, 2022 Really impressed by the guitars and pianos in Fabric XL: 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
abacab 8,030 Posted November 11, 2022 Just buy NI Komplete. You will be much happier, and better supported! 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
abacab 8,030 Posted November 11, 2022 4 hours ago, simon said: just checked the price ! - double avoid ^^^ Exactly!!! $807 for the 8 new instruments! I'm sure you could find a Komplete Standard crossgrade for much less! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kitekrazy 2,686 Posted November 11, 2022 It's their new stuff that's better. I have their drum synth. Considering it's AIR, those prices are overpriced for their reputation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
abacab 8,030 Posted November 11, 2022 4 minutes ago, kitekrazy said: Considering it's AIR, those prices are overpriced for their reputation. I wouldn't even touch them if they were free! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fleer 10,822 Posted November 11, 2022 They’re not bad at all in Akai’s new MPC 61 keyboard. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
abacab 8,030 Posted November 11, 2022 Maybe, but inMusic is meh. Much better companies out there to give my support and $$$ to! They have let me down one too many times... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
daveiv 422 Posted November 11, 2022 As an owner of EVERYTHING from AIR, I get ZERO upgrade discounts. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reid Rosefelt 3,575 Posted November 11, 2022 2 hours ago, Hurricane said: Really impressed by the guitars and pianos in Fabric XL: I agree it sounds great, but $159!!!????? We know it will be $19.95 soon or even a giveaway at Plugin Boutique. But @Simeon Amburgey please do this one! 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zo 3,527 Posted November 12, 2022 Did they ever update their existig plugins ? Bugs and small gui on the menu.... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
User 905133 1,744 Posted November 12, 2022 (edited) On 11/12/2022 at 2:09 AM, Zo said: Did they ever update their existig plugins ? So far as I have seen, they just updated the prices of the older plug-ins. UPDATE: I just looked at a few of the older AIR products at Plug-in Boutique. I do not see anything that says they have been updated. And, since the ratings are based on considerably lower prices some of their ratings are IMO grossly inaccurate. For example: [Image of "Value for Money" rating removed to reclaim the attachment space.] Unfortunately, they do not allow purchasers to change ratings as I found out when I wanted to upgrade a rating on a product because it had been greatly improved with a free-for-life update since the time I got it from Plug-in Boutique. Edited January 18 by User 905133 added details Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dubdisciple 673 Posted November 12, 2022 I think Air plugins are great....as stock plugs for systems like pro tools and MPC hardware. The limitations of MPC hardware incentivize user to reduce reliance on third party plugs. They are also decent as low cost- or better still, free -add ons for non-MPC users. Fabric XL is damn good but for the money, nowhere near the best buy at regular price. Even at the recent 99 dollar sale price, I would rather upgrade my v collection. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
abacab 8,030 Posted November 12, 2022 (edited) I bought into the full AIR instrument collection 6 years or so ago. Their marketing guy Simon later stated that new larger GUIs were under development, and he was seeking beta testers at one time. Updates that never happened. Then AIR dribbled out a few new instruments at full price, including Loom II without a scalable UI... then a few more... now it looks like inMusic have merged bits of the former AIR instrument tech into their AKAI MPC lineup. The original AIR instruments were a Pro Tools exclusive until inMusic bought them and released them as standard plugins. It seems now they have all but abandoned them, except for picking the bones for useful tech. I also bought into the AKAI VIP system about 5 years ago, including a VIP integrated keyboard controller with color LCD. It offered mouse-free workstation type control over your plugins with front panel LCD controls, including preset multis and FX. Unfortunately VIP 3 only supported VST2, and they never developed it beyond that, and then quietly dropped the VIP lineup from production. So yeah, I'm a bit cynical about inMusic now. 🙄 Edited November 12, 2022 by abacab 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fleer 10,822 Posted November 12, 2022 I remember Simon Bangs, a good guy with efficient support. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dubdisciple 673 Posted November 12, 2022 21 minutes ago, abacab said: I bought into the full AIR instrument collection 6 years or so ago. Their marketing guy Simon later stated that new larger GUIs were under development, and he was seeking beta testers at one time. Updates that never happened. Then AIR dribbled out a few new instruments at full price, including Loom II without a scalable UI... then a few more... now it looks like inMusic have merged bits of the former AIR instrument tech into their AKAI MPC lineup. The original AIR instruments were a Pro Tools exclusive until inMusic bought them and released them as standard plugins. It seems now they have all but abandoned them, except for picking the bones for useful tech. I also bought into the AKAI VIP system including a VIP integrated keyboard controller with color LCD. It offered mouse-free workstation type control over your plugins with front panel LCD controls, including preset multis and FX. Unfortunately VIP 3 only supported VST2, and they never developed it beyond that, and then quietly dropped the VIP lineup from production. So yeah, I'm a bit cynical about inMusic now. 🙄 I got roped into VIP. Thankfully my Alesis VX49 ended up being a decent controller. I don't use VIP at all. I find that Arturia's sust and Komplete do a better job with instruments I actually use. I use my Air plugins, particularly when using MPC, but wouldn't actually buy any of them aside from Loom II though. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
abacab 8,030 Posted November 12, 2022 (edited) 38 minutes ago, dubdisciple said: Thankfully my Alesis VX49 ended up being a decent controller. I have the same controller, and it's a solid keyboard! Pretty much a clone of the AKAI Pro Advance 49, but at a much better price without the AKAI name tag. To clarify, I never said that they make bad products or the instruments don't sound good. So if you can overlook long-term product support you may find a good deal. But IMO, the company is quick to change direction and drop customers and products without so much as an "I'm sorry". It's "just business" I suppose... Edited November 12, 2022 by abacab 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hurricane 18 Posted November 12, 2022 10 hours ago, Zo said: Did they ever update their existig plugins ? Bugs and small gui on the menu.... The previous new instruments (Hype, Tubesynth, Electric, etc.) have all been updated with resizable interfaces and the ability to save presets within the instrument (not sure why that wasn't there in the first place). Hybrid, Loom, Expand and the others however, are still how they are. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PavlovsCat 3,661 Posted November 12, 2022 The demoed instruments sound nice, but they're not in the same league as what the better developers are doing with KONTAKT and InMusic has a horrific track record. I've never had worse problems with any software than theirs and they knew about the problems that caused issues with Windows users for more than a year and didn't resolve it. I have to side with Abacab on this one. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites