Sander Verstraten 927 Posted October 5, 2022 In a first Bitwig is offering an paid Add-on called Spectral Suite. https://www.bitwig.com/spectral-suite/ It's on offer now for $79 instead of $99. And a year of updates + spectral suite is currently $199 (the regular update price is $169 so you would get the new stuff for $30) Demo from Polarity Here: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brian Lawler 869 Posted October 5, 2022 This is a massive kick in the nuts to Bitwig update subscribers. And I am very sore. Plenty of comments on the Bitwig KVR forum already, and none of them supportive. Sure wish I had not bought my next subscription code already. It apparently will not get me very much value now that they are charging extra for features. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sander Verstraten 927 Posted October 5, 2022 It would greatly benefit if they would explain why this is a separate product indeed. As I'm confused about it. I would understand if it was something developed by someone else for Bitwig. But it seems to be made by the core Bitwig team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fleer 10,800 Posted October 5, 2022 Indeed, this is an awkward turn of events. They’ll have some explaining to do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fleer 10,800 Posted October 5, 2022 https://www.bitwig.com/support/shop_license_activation/why-add-ons-on-top-of-the-12-month-upgrade-plan-54/ doesn’t cut it. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
John Maar 941 Posted October 5, 2022 Studio One has had a few paid add-ons for a long time. Don't need them? Don't buy them. I bought just the ones I would use, and none of the others. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barrie 373 Posted October 5, 2022 I think one of the big issues here is how does Bitwig delineate between what modules are part of an upgrade, and what are separate. I'm concerned that modules (that in the past that were free as a part of the upgrade plan) may be paid in the future, thus lessening the value of the update plan. But we don't know what that may be. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fleer 10,800 Posted October 5, 2022 It’s just that their unique take on updating is somewhat challenged by this add-on approach. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
John Maar 941 Posted October 6, 2022 17 hours ago, Fleer said: It’s just that their unique take on updating is somewhat challenged by this add-on approach. Germans! It's OK for me to say that since my ancestors on all sides were 100% Prussian, emigrating from what is now MeckVor (Mecklenburg-Vorpommern) to the U.S. from 1845-1864, before Germany was unified. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Royal Yaksman 166 Posted October 6, 2022 22 hours ago, Fleer said: https://www.bitwig.com/support/shop_license_activation/why-add-ons-on-top-of-the-12-month-upgrade-plan-54/ doesn’t cut it. I agree. Their statement is far too vague on just what exactly would qualify the development of something as a now paid for extra. It seems like they might be setting themselves up a nice little slippery slope, where slowly but surely everything but the most basic device finds its way into the add-on category. Or perhaps they will start hobbling features of new free devices and if you want that extra knob/switch/feature (or two) that actually makes the device broadly useful? Break out that wallet! Again! And again... And again... Annnnnnnd again...🥶 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nick Blanc 828 Posted October 6, 2022 4 hours ago, John Maar said: Germans! It's OK for me to say that since my ancestors on all sides were 100% Prussian, emigrating from what is now MeckVor (Mecklenburg-Vorpommern) to the U.S. from 1845-1864, before Germany was unified. I am very! hestitant to salute a fellow pureblood 😝. Though not Prussian, I'm 85% north/west European and within that group mostly (+90%) Dutch and the other 15% Scandinavian. So nothing south of the river Rhine. As my dad used to say 'free from alien blemish' (or something like that, it's hard to translate). Which was his way of saying we don't do heat very well. Ontopic: I read a lot of Bitwig users are not a fan of this direction. And I can understand that if this is indeed from the Bitwig core-team. As an Ableton user I have no problem paying for 3rd party developer stuff directly from the Ableton site because it is very well curated and always offers something Ableton itself does not. But I would be cross if Ableton suddenly released something which in any case would be part of the Suite, but now I had to pay for it. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
abacab 8,029 Posted October 6, 2022 So is Bitwig going to follow the PreSonus model or the Ableton model? Totally unclear and understand if this results in ticked-off users! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brian Lawler 869 Posted October 6, 2022 Ticked off is an understatement. https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=587607 540 posts and counting in the past 31 hours. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dubdisciple 664 Posted October 6, 2022 This was a major blunder. The fact that it is locked to bitwig makes it simply another tier of bitwig. I am sure Bitwig owners thought they were paying update fee to remain at top tier. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Craig N 675 Posted October 6, 2022 7 hours ago, Brian Lawler said: Ticked off is an understatement. https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=587607 540 posts and counting in the past 31 hours. It's the same everywhere Facebook Twitter Youtube Reddit They're copping major backlash over this. I have mostly bit my tongue so far, although having just bought it less than two weeks ago it feels a lot like a bait and switch on the back of the previous U-He promotion. Really hoping they listen to the community and find a way to course correct. I understand the commercial imperative but there's a right way and a wrong way to do things. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dubdisciple 664 Posted October 7, 2022 This reminds me of when Gibson sold all those lifetime updates knowing they were about to fold 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magic Russ 858 Posted October 8, 2022 I was thinking more like the expansion from the Roland days. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sander Verstraten 927 Posted October 10, 2022 Apparently some statement will be coming from Bitwig tomorrow. But it must be bad, since Venus Theory publicly cut all ties with Bitwig 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fleer 10,800 Posted October 10, 2022 Wow, wonder what’s up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
