sjoens Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 (edited) No clue what's causing this. Normally CbB honors transparent objects, but sometimes it forgets to. Of note is the Track View Time Ruler Now Time Marker. There looks like a solid black mask behind it in the shape of the default marker that can appear at will. Default: Repainted: The Black area should be transparent, and for months it was. For no reason, today the mask refuses to go away in spite repeated app reloads and system reboots. Edited September 13, 2022 by sjoens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew White Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 1 hour ago, sjoens said: For no reason, today the mask refuses to go away Just a thought... Was it since you changed any settings to try to figure out what was causing the 'Forum Site Map Issue' you posted about? 1 hour ago, sjoens said: There looks like a solid black mask behind it in the shape of the default marker that can appear at will. Default: Repainted: Are you saying just the green play icon should be showing with nothing around it? I sometimes see the transparency get blacked out briefly on this icon when saving a project, but it displays as a rectangle like the base the image is drawn on (as shown in the image below) so the transparent chequered area is blacked out also , this would suggest some transparency is being honoured on yours but if it's displaying different to what you usually see using the same Theme then I have no idea unless it's due to a change you made trying to figure the 'Forum Site Map Issue'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjoens Posted September 8, 2022 Author Share Posted September 8, 2022 (edited) 11 hours ago, Matthew White said: Was it since you changed any settings to try to figure out what was causing the 'Forum Site Map Issue' Yes. But I revisited those settings to rectify this issue... to no avail. Transparency as a whole is fine, only this particular image is affected ATM. 11 hours ago, Matthew White said: Are you saying just the green play icon should be showing with nothing around it? Yes. I made the rest of the image transparent. The transparent area in the default image you posted (above) is transparent in both images, so the "mask" is interfering with the remaining transparent area of my image. FWIW I noticed this same issue in SPlat years ago but forgot about it with CbB as it never came up until now. Setting or glitch? It's not a big deal but annoying to say the least as it's visually ruining several themes. For kicks, anyone care to make one of their Now Markers 100% transparent in a test theme to verify if replicable? Edited September 8, 2022 by sjoens 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starship Krupa Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 I've encountered multiple objects that go black when I make them transparent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjoens Posted September 9, 2022 Author Share Posted September 9, 2022 Yes. Not all images have or honor transparency within CbB. But those that do, should. This is just a weird case of one image that did and now doesn't. Still curious if anyone else can replicate it with Now Markers. Then I'll know if it's personal... or something I did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew White Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 11 hours ago, sjoens said: 22 hours ago, Matthew White said: Was it since you changed any settings to try to figure out what was causing the 'Forum Site Map Issue' Yes. But I revisited those settings to rectify this issue... to no avail. Transparency as a whole is fine, only this particular image is affected ATM. Ah OK, was just a thought. 11 hours ago, sjoens said: For kicks, anyone care to make one of their Now Markers 100% transparent in a test theme to verify if replicable? Just tried this and I'm not seeing the issue here, I tried leaving just the Play, Stop etc icons and also making them completely blank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew White Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 (edited) 9 hours ago, Starship Krupa said: I've encountered multiple objects that go black when I make them transparent. One I've noticed so far is the 'Scroll Bar Zoom Icons' as I usually make the corners transparent, as soon as I save the Theme then open the icons in paint.net the corners are filled in completely black. 🤷♂️ Edited September 9, 2022 by Matthew White Added Image Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjoens Posted September 9, 2022 Author Share Posted September 9, 2022 1 hour ago, Matthew White said: Just tried this and I'm not seeing the issue here, I tried leaving just the Play, Stop etc icons and also making them completely blank. As I thought. So it is personal! 😠 Thanks for looking into it. I just installed the latest CbB update thinking it might be buggy code but no change. As I type this my animated gif avatar is flashing, so maybe the graphic card is going dodo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjoens Posted September 9, 2022 Author Share Posted September 9, 2022 1 hour ago, Matthew White said: One I've noticed so far is the 'Scroll Bar Zoom Icons' as I usually make the corners transparent... I believe that's normal for BMPs as they don't support transparency w/o a coded color set within the .exe. Some BMPs like the wide Console Separator were converted to PNG for Theme Editor and now support transparency. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew White Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 1 hour ago, sjoens said: I believe that's normal for BMPs as they don't support transparency w/o a coded color set within the .exe. I see, I never realized they were BMPs just thought they were PNGs lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjoens Posted September 10, 2022 Author Share Posted September 10, 2022 (edited) You can find image type in the Properties box... Edited September 10, 2022 by sjoens 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew White Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 13 hours ago, sjoens said: You can find image type in the Properties box... True, but this still wouldn't have helped at the time as I was also unaware BMPs don't support transparency, seems I'm still learning little bits now and then even after 4 years making themes. 😆 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjoens Posted September 12, 2022 Author Share Posted September 12, 2022 (edited) I meant to say they can support transparency, but not as easily as PNGs or JPGs. Even so , not all CbB views support it. Before the X series, Sonar GUI was all BMP and transparency was accomplished with masking images or a specific color like magenta: , and then only if internal coding allowed it. PNGs have an alpha channel built in for transparency. Check out most of Cakewalk's VST Resource folders where you can see examples of BMP transparency masking. Interesting they've always made these GUIs openly changeable but not the main program. Transparency is good! Edited September 12, 2022 by sjoens 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjoens Posted September 13, 2022 Author Share Posted September 13, 2022 (edited) Today I changed some Personalization settings and the bug went away. Not sure why, how or by what setting this single image is being affected, but currently all is good. Edited September 13, 2022 by sjoens 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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