Astraios Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 (edited) Hi and Hello 🤠 Has anyone successfully blocked a range of incoming MIDI Notes from a track? I want to block lower incomming midi notes (of my Control Keyboard) from 1 to 24 and upper incomming notes from 101 to 127. I use these notes in a mackie based Control setup and as I use them for control my synths and FX I don't want to hear a certain sound when pushing my buttons. Something like this: https://isotonikstudios.com/product/note-range-setters/ Edited July 2, 2019 by Astra-Ios Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scook Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 Look at the MIDI Event Filter MFX. The help file for the plug-in is installed along with the plug=in. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astraios Posted July 1, 2019 Author Share Posted July 1, 2019 Thx for reply, scook already tried this tool, but wasn't very sucessful with it... I'll try again. 🧐 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astraios Posted July 1, 2019 Author Share Posted July 1, 2019 Scook, as far as I can see,this tool works only for already existing notes in the track and doesn't affect the incomming midi note-on commands of my midi-controller not a bit. What I'm looking for, is a tool or a method to filter out or block incomming note commands in a certain range of the 0-127 spectrum. I don't really need the very low and upper notes to work. With the MIDI-OX tool I can do a lot, but this sucks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scook Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 It is true, CbB records the data at its inputs. So, to record a signal after an FX rack requires routing the signal through the FX rack and recording it on another track. For audio, this may be done using patch points. For MIDI, this may be done with a virtual MIDI cable. I know of two free virtual MIDI cables, LoopBe1 and LoopMIDI. The signal flow to filter live MIDI data is - Controller > MIDI track 1 with input echo enabled and MIDI Event Filter in FX Rack > Synth instrument or MIDI track 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astraios Posted July 1, 2019 Author Share Posted July 1, 2019 I'm using LoopMIDI in combination with MIDIox for years... So I'm quiet familiar with it ☯️ Another workaround is to create a drummap and sort out desired notes, but I don't want to edit my synth in the pianoroll view as a drummap. Too bad, it is not possible to click-off individual notes in the pianoroll piano. ⁉️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abacab Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 Can you configure a MIDI keyboard performance split in your controller? That way you could only send the desired keys per channel from the external source. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astraios Posted July 1, 2019 Author Share Posted July 1, 2019 (edited) 44 minutes ago, abacab said: Can you configure a MIDI keyboard performance split in your controller? That way you could only send the desired keys per channel from the external source. My controller sends MIDI by two layers 1. is for keys and wheeels and 8 knobs 2. is for faders, pan, pads and buttons and has also the ability to split the keys Edited July 1, 2019 by Astra-Ios Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abacab Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 13 minutes ago, Astra-Ios said: My controller sends MIDI by two layers 1. is for keys and wheeels and 8 knobs 2. is for faders, pan, pads and buttons and has also the ability to split the keys That last part you listed is what I was referring to. I don't have that controller, so I'm just guessing out loud about your options. I have a M-Audio Axiom 49 controller that allows the keys to be split into 4 zones, with each zone assigned to any MIDI channel (1-16), so each zone is able to transmit on a different MIDI channel. Then the zone key ranges can then be set for each zone (hi key: low key). It is also possible to set the octave and/or transposition of each zone. So for example it is possible to play four different instruments from these zones, in any selected octave. Your mileage may vary, depending on the controller being used. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Variorum Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 You might want to try Track Doorman from tencrazy.com. It seems to do exactly what you're looking for... and it's free Can't hurt to try it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astraios Posted July 1, 2019 Author Share Posted July 1, 2019 Thx for your response, abacab ☺️ Cool - good idea... My controller can do that too, but I think, it is not really helpful to achieve what I want to realize. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abacab Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 Just setup zones for the keys you don't want to send, and then turn them off. All you will have left active is the zone with the keys that you wish to send. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astraios Posted July 1, 2019 Author Share Posted July 1, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Variorum said: You might want to try Track Doorman from tencrazy.com. It seems to do exactly what you're looking for... and it's free Can't hurt to try it. Wow!!! I'm blown away - What an answer 😍 Thx a lot - I've never stumbled over this Incredible website Track Doorman Oyvind Strandem asked on the SONAR/MFX forum: "Hi, I'm trying to use my laptop running sonar to control several softsynths at the same time, but I'm having trouble specifying the keyranges for the different synths so I can control them all from a single midikeyboard. I tried using the CakewalkFx Midi Event filter to single out the keyranges i wanted the synth to respond to, but it wouldnt work on realtime input, only recorded mididata. Does anyone know about some kind of keyrangefilter that responds to realtime midi input? Or does anyone know how to make one?" Well, I don't know of one (and it's a pity that the Cake plug doesn't do this), but I can sure as heck make one... TenCrazy.com MFX Track Doorman in one tough cookie! He only lets notes into his club if they meet strict requirements! Edited July 1, 2019 by Astra-Ios Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astraios Posted July 1, 2019 Author Share Posted July 1, 2019 (edited) That's what it looks like, but I haven't yet get it to work good night - it's late again Edited July 1, 2019 by Astra-Ios Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Sorrels Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Track Doorman (and any of the MIDI MFX plugins) won't prevent notes from showing up when you record. CbB/SONAR doesn't have a pre-record filter. It will prevent the note from passing to the synth though. It can also be applied to a clip after the clip is recorded and will remove the notes that way (select the clip and use the menu item Process->Apply Effect->MIDI Effects). So you can just put it on the track and leave it there, those notes outside the range won't ever be played, then when you want to clean up clip you can apply it directly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astraios Posted July 2, 2019 Author Share Posted July 2, 2019 (edited) I'm not that much into signal flow and special technical events. For all to see what I mean, I created a CbB drum map in a project and now I have what I was asking for - but in the pianoroll view the left virtual keyboard is goodbye and the appearence of the notes are thinner (what I really don't like) I guess, would just take a little effort for the programmers to transfer this option (solo/mute) into the regular pianoroll view and off we go 😂 But as we all know, this will never happen *geee Edited July 2, 2019 by Astra-Ios Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astraios Posted July 2, 2019 Author Share Posted July 2, 2019 3 hours ago, Matthew Sorrels said: Track Doorman (and any of the MIDI MFX plugins) won't prevent notes from showing up when you record. CbB/SONAR doesn't have a pre-record filter. It will prevent the note from passing to the synth though. It can also be applied to a clip after the clip is recorded and will remove the notes that way (select the clip and use the menu item Process->Apply Effect->MIDI Effects). So you can just put it on the track and leave it there, those notes outside the range won't ever be played, then when you want to clean up clip you can apply it directly. thank you for your Input - that is interessting 🤓 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astraios Posted July 2, 2019 Author Share Posted July 2, 2019 Okay, I have to correct my statement. The virtual keyboard in the PRV is completly useable. So my question is answered by creating a certain drum-map. Thank you all for your help 🌈🌟 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astraios Posted July 2, 2019 Author Share Posted July 2, 2019 (edited) Ghhh sh*t! It doesn't... You can show up the piano roll view with virtual left keyboard, you can even draw notes in it, but it doesn't react at all 😩 Guess I have defenetly decide between using a drum-map or not Such a biest of a program… 😈 Edited July 2, 2019 by Astra-Ios Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astraios Posted July 2, 2019 Author Share Posted July 2, 2019 From my opinion they should add THIS (in thepicture) to the PRV. One could solo or mute individual notes, even whole ranges e.t.c. 🦁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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