LasWaltz Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 The one that fits your work flow...longer. love fd8 integration at Studio, but I was one of those who fell for the eternal Ck license. Now split versus intuitive S1 and cubase... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwal³ Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 17 hours ago, cclarry said: IMO messing with S1 Pro would be a MAJOR MISTAKE on their part, but BEAN COUNTERS and "Office Dwellers" don't care about that...they care about PROFITS and sales. the guy's an accountant https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Mooney 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwal³ Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 14 hours ago, mettelus said: when opening a powerful program to do its most basic function, it shouldn't require a lot of effort to do this; but this is where many applications fall short. users, know your limits! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwal³ Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 10 hours ago, PavlovsCat said: I'm just wondering the reasons those who choose Studio One find it superior to Cakewalk i HATED the x1 release, with the half-baked unannounced new gui (when i first ran it after installing i could literally watch it drawing the new "modern" gui over the top of the old trad windows, for example "loop explorer" became "browser" etc) resulting in lots of unexpected learning requirements, and the crashing... it was a real wtf moment it was the first time in 20+ years i'd bothered looking around at the competition and s1 hit the spot, and has stayed crash-proof (for me at least) and high-performing throughout all the updates since /ymmv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heath Row Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 5 minutes ago, pwalpwal said: s1 hit the spot, and has stayed crash-proof (for me at least) and high-performing throughout all the updates since /ymmv Same experience here, S1Pro has been rock solid for me throughout my life with it since late 2015. 🤘 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technostica Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 PreSonus have more music production hardware in their catalogue than most other DAW vendors. Integration with Studio One is part of the selling point of some of their hardware, controllers especially. So if they dumbed down S1 Pro, it would likely impact hardware sales too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwal³ Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 presonus bought the company/team that were developing s1 (then called kristal) the company being a bunch of ex-steinberg/cubase devs, and spent the next years developing the daw itself as well as hw intg, i'm doubtful that they will change/remove any of the hardware integration, altho maybe that's the only thing left intact? and as others have said, use the tools that suit the job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALC Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 (edited) If PreSonus can provide a free cross platform (Windows, macOS, iOS) that is at least as easy to use as GarageBand, it’d be a go to option for pointing people to for recording. When I was needing to collaborate with a number of students to record tracks for songs, I tried all the free options out there and Studio One Prime came out the winner (for me). GarageBand was not an option since it was macOS only and not directly supported to export individual tracks (can to do it one by one for audio but for it’s downright painful for MIDI). Efforts to make it easier for a newbie to record and share tracks and collaborate would be appreciated. I’m looking forward to seeing what Fender/PreSonus comes up with. Edited July 25, 2022 by ALC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bapu Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 I'm not sure I see the *need* for collaborators to be on the same DAW. Citizen Regen has two members recording in Studio One, one in CbB, one in Ableton, and one in Reaper (he used to use Digital Performer). It's never hindered us. Why? All members transfer full length 24/48 wav/flac files. We don't need DAW specific project/song files to get the collab done. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALC Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 9 minutes ago, Bapu said: I'm not sure I see the *need* for collaborators to be on the same DAW. Citizen Regen has two members recording in Studio One, one in CbB, one in Ableton, and one in Reaper (he used to use Digital Performer). It's never hindered us. Why? All members transfer full length 24/48 wav/flac files. We don't need DAW specific project/song files to get the collab done. Sure, but it sounds like you have people who already know what they’re doing. For those who haven’t recorded before, being able to share a project that has everything set up with guide tracks is invaluable (and there still was a learning curve). 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abacab Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 13 minutes ago, Bapu said: I'm not sure I see the *need* for collaborators to be on the same DAW. Citizen Regen has two members recording in Studio One, one in CbB, one in Ableton, and one in Reaper (he used to use Digital Performer). It's never hindered us. Why? All members transfer full length 24/48 wav/flac files. We don't need DAW specific project/song files to get the collab done. That there is a "Craig Anderton-esque" workaround, and practically the current industry standard! But Imagine if everyone had free access to the same platform for exchanging entire projects? Especially beginners? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InstrEd Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 1 hour ago, abacab said: That there is a "Craig Anderton-esque" workaround, and practically the current industry standard! But Imagine if everyone had free access to the same platform for exchanging entire projects? Especially beginners? If on Windows platform CbB is a great solution for that. But I have to admit that CbB is at a disadvantage being only Windows DAW. Fine for my needs but I do know a couple folks from Church that are on MACs . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abacab Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, InstrEd said: If on Windows platform CbB is a great solution for that. But I have to admit that CbB is at a disadvantage being only Windows DAW. Fine for my needs but I do know a couple folks from Church that are on MACs . CbB is not really something that an absolute beginner can just jump into and hit the ground running. It's a complex piece of machinery. I'm still learning new things about it after 20+ years, LOL! So for Mac's and PC's then, Studio One Prime! Free and cross-platform. Still not a one-pager though, as confirmed by the Fender CEO. Eventually, whatever dumbed down version that Fender manages to produce may be worth a look... Edited July 25, 2022 by abacab 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcL Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 5 minutes ago, InstrEd said: If on Windows platform CbB is a great solution for that. But I have to admit that CbB is at a disadvantage being only Windows DAW. Fine for my needs but I do know a couple folks from Church that are on MACs . Oh yes, I know, you mean the Scottish folk. MACCleod, MACArthur, MACEan, MACGregor, ... 😄 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InstrEd Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 1 minute ago, marled said: Oh yes, I know, you mean the Scottish folk. MACCleod, MACArthur, MACEan, MACGregor, ... 😄 I still have Ireland and Scotland on my wish list to visit. I was in England as a teenager with my dad, the countryside was beautiful! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSMcGuitar Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, marled said: Oh yes, I know, you mean the Scottish folk. MACCleod, MACArthur, MACEan, MACGregor, ... 😄 Mc > Mac 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InstrEd Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 10 minutes ago, abacab said: CbB is not really something that an absolute beginner can just jump into and hit the ground running Yep you got me on that one. Me too, I have been using Cakewalk products for a long time and I forget how powerful it is and complicated too. It is one serious DAW that can take you far but you are right not beginner friendly. Now on Windows side I actually like Mixcraft DAW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InstrEd Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, RSMcGuitar said: Mc > Mac Thanks now you made be hungry for McDonald's. Hope you're happy about that 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grem Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 52 minutes ago, abacab said: Eventually, whatever dumbed down version that Fender manages to produce may be worth a look... I see this being the goal. A new audio interface that any newbie can hook up and start recording in a flash. Simple one knob plugins, results in a flash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abacab Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Grem said: I see this being the goal. A new audio interface that any newbie can hook up and start recording in a flash. Simple one knob plugins, results in a flash. Digital 4-track in a box. Just connect to PC and press "Go" for instant gratification! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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