MusicMan Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 (edited) PSP @ JRRShop - Oldies, but goodies 🙂 https://www.jrrshop.com/psp-oldtimer $99.00 /  $19.99 https://www.jrrshop.com/psp-oldtimermb-multiband-compressor-plugin $199.00 / $49.99 Both cheaper in cart and can use the GROUP code for a slight extra saving. - Also now available at AudioDeluxe for $16.65 for OldTimerME with code SUMMER22 and you get Antares Choir free with purchase plus earn $0.83 DeluxeBucks 🙂 https://www.audiodeluxe.com/products/psp-audioware-oldtimerme Edited July 9, 2022 by MusicMan 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleer Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 That OldTimer is pretty pretty good. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stony Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 Old Timer is $16.79 in Cart with Code GROUP 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MusicMan Posted July 9, 2022 Author Share Posted July 9, 2022 4 hours ago, Fleer said: That OldTimer is pretty pretty good. I'm generally impressed with most of the plugins I've tried from these guys. Some more than others, but overall they do well. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mibby Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 Dang it! PSP Old Timer - bought and installed. A couple of years ago I was trying to thin out plugins and was thinking PSP was one Dev I could do without. A few sub $20 no-brainers later, and I'm collecting them again. My two most used are the Twin-L and the 2445 EMT reverb. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleer Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 Yeah, that 2445 is something else alright. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Cruz Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 PSP is such a nice and no bullshit company. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antler Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 37 minutes ago, Walter Cruz said: PSP is such a nice and no bullshit company. It'd be a better company if it wasn't adopting iLok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Cruz Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 1 minute ago, antler said: It'd be a better company if it wasn't adopting iLok yes, it's maybe their only 'issue' (I'm ok with soft ilok, but I can see that a lot of people don't like it). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSteven Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 1 hour ago, antler said: It'd be a better company if it wasn't adopting iLok Meh... beg to differ. I'm setting up a new(ish) computer and the iLok plugins (I use the iLok3 dongle) were the least problematic thing I had to deal with. Turns out I had a flakey SSD hard drive that always passed diagnostics but the OS would gradually get corrupted - the last one lasted for almost 3 weeks before suddenly going south and becoming unbootable.  I ended up installing Windows multiple times (at least 5) in the course of dealing with this and had to contact multiple plugin developers because I had burned through my allowable authorizations.  Also not having to deal with all the various authorization/licensing schemes was a joy. The one exception that comes to mind is Softube - with their clunky installer that won't remember your password & other issues using iLok doesn't help things. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcL Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 2 hours ago, antler said: It'd be a better company if it wasn't adopting iLok IMHO iLok is much better than most other machine dependent authorizations! With iLok it is at least clear what you have to do in case of a problem (it is a standard), almost no provider specific handling! And even if a provider disappears, you still can move your authorizations! When I had problems with my laptop's Windows installation it was a nightmare with all those different machine dependent authorizations, each company has its own rules (de-authorization, number of authorizations are unknown, information not available,  ...). And if you have authorizations on a iLok dongle it is even better in case of system problems, 'cos it is not affected! Okay, still I prefer real offline keys (offline serial or offline file)! 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olong Johnson Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 59 minutes ago, TheSteven said: Turns out I had a flakey SSD hard drive that always passed diagnostics but the OS would gradually get corrupted - the last one lasted for almost 3 weeks before suddenly going south and becoming unbootable.  My backup software (Macrium Reflect) is great at catching SSDs at the first hint of a hardware problem, but before anything gets lost and before any other utilities notice there is a problem at all. They have a free version but I purchased it to help support the developer. Highly recommended. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MusicMan Posted July 9, 2022 Author Share Posted July 9, 2022 3 hours ago, marled said: IMHO iLok is much better than most other machine dependent authorizations! With iLok it is at least clear what you have to do in case of a problem (it is a standard), almost no provider specific handling! And even if a provider disappears, you still can move your authorizations! When I had problems with my laptop's Windows installation it was a nightmare with all those different machine dependent authorizations, each company has its own rules (de-authorization, number of authorizations are unknown, information not available,  ...). And if you have authorizations on a iLok dongle it is even better in case of system problems, 'cos it is not affected! Okay, still I prefer real offline keys (offline serial or offline file)! There's definitely some benefits with that, but if there was another licensing scheme that was as pervasive, then most of those benefits would apply. For me, that's iLoks number one benefit. But they could improve many aspects really easily and keep everyone happy. If they made all authorizations available by Cloud, or Machine and then had an option for a periodic check-in so it cached the authorization in case of internet outages, travel, etc then automatically return those licenses to your license pool, then I'd be more comfortable with it. That would protect everyone from hard drive failures, upgrades messing with the machine ID, etc. Then if people still want to use a dongle, given them that as an option too. Simple way of using the current platform but not penalizing paying customers. I still much prefer real offline keys and offline auth files too! I always support those developers more as I like to reward them 🙂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MusicMan Posted July 9, 2022 Author Share Posted July 9, 2022 Also now available at AudioDeluxe. OldTimerME for $16.65 with code SUMMER22 and you get Antares Choir free with purchase plus earn $0.83 DeluxeBucks 🙂 https://www.audiodeluxe.com/products/psp-audioware-oldtimerme 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grem Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 14 hours ago, Fleer said: Yeah, that 2445 is something else alright. It damn sure is. It is up there with the best verbs out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MusicMan Posted July 10, 2022 Author Share Posted July 10, 2022 (edited) Definitely a nice reverb that one. Pretty sure I still have an extra unregistered key for the 2445 EMT reverb 🙂 It now has a new home with one of the members on here 😎 Edited July 13, 2022 by MusicMan No longer available 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antler Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 12 hours ago, MusicMan said: For me, that's iLoks number one benefit. But they could improve many aspects really easily and keep everyone happy. If they made all authorizations available by Cloud, or Machine and then had an option for a periodic check-in so it cached the authorization in case of internet outages, travel, etc then automatically return those licenses to your license pool, then I'd be more comfortable with it. That would protect everyone from hard drive failures, upgrades messing with the machine ID, etc. They could also make ZTD and replacements for dongles that haven't been physically damaged free. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MusicMan Posted July 10, 2022 Author Share Posted July 10, 2022 4 minutes ago, antler said: They could also make ZTD and replacements for dongles that haven't been physically damaged free. A very good point. I also find it a little funny the thought of paying an annual fee for ZDT to protect the licenses of the software you already paid for.. almost sounds like WUP to me! 🤣 My preference is serial, or offline license file, so if the developers choose to go with iLok instead, then maybe they should pay for ZDT.. or like you said, iLok include it free. But they seems to charge money whichever way they turn, so not sure I see that happening! Maybe if the new open standard C.L.A.P plugin format gets off the ground the same group could look at an open license system based off blockchain and we could ditch iLok altogether 😎 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleer Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 The latest iLok version allows you to deactivate machine activations from another computer (like when you lost the other one) IIRC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris.r Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 8 hours ago, Fleer said: The latest iLok version allows you to deactivate machine activations from another computer (like when you lost the other one) IIRC. Whoah... is that for PSP plugins only or all iLok licenses in general? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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