cclarry Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 At Best Service https://www.bestservice.com/deals/steinberg_summer_sale_up_to_50_off_4240.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
telecode 101 Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 $77 at Thom Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cclarry Posted July 7, 2022 Author Share Posted July 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, telecode 101 said: $77 at Thom Man https://www.thomannmusic.com/steinberg_groove_agent_5_download.htm?listPosition=0&ref=sea_rslt_Groove%2BAgent_530180_0_0&type=quickSearch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
telecode 101 Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 well, i will be finally getting GA. been using the GA SE version a lot lately. I finally understanding why you need the slots for 4 drums. That thing is amazing (for my needs anyway). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reid Rosefelt Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 (edited) I'm not sure if the Percussion Agent is in GA SE, but it is my favorite part. The ability to change the complexity, randomness, intensity, etc of the various percussion instruments. All this can be automated. But as is so typical with Steinberg, they do NOTHING with this. They should sell more percussion Agents with world drums, but no... I bought a few of their excellent expansions, and I rarely use it. I'm going to load it up today and put it though its paces Simon Stockhausen's Colliding Worlds is very cool https://www.steinberg.net/vst-instruments/groove-agent/expansions/colliding-worlds/ Edited July 7, 2022 by Reid Rosefelt 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
telecode 101 Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 (edited) I have GA SE and the Simon Phillips jazz drums which are excellent IMO. I will be getting this as I finally understand now why you need four slots in GA. Edited July 7, 2022 by telecode 101 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canopus Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 I’ve had a discussion with myself today whether I should level up my Groove Agent SE and get Groove Agent, but after looking at the comparison chart at Steinberg my left brain finally told me no. I do have a lot of options when it comes to drums so I can’t find the motivation even at 50% off. The biggest benefit for me would have been to be able to use it outside Cubase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 25 minutes ago, Canopus said: I’ve had a discussion with myself today whether I should level up my Groove Agent SE and get Groove Agent, but after looking at the comparison chart at Steinberg my left brain finally told me no. I do have a lot of options when it comes to drums so I can’t find the motivation even at 50% off. The biggest benefit for me would have been to be able to use it outside Cubase. I have yet to discover the ones in Komplete, MDrummer, Battery, Modo Drums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
telecode 101 Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 3 hours ago, Reid Rosefelt said: I'm not sure if the Percussion Agent is in GA SE, but it is my favorite part. The ability to change the complexity, randomness, intensity, etc of the various percussion instruments. All this can be automated. But as is so typical with Steinberg, they do NOTHING with this. They should sell more percussion Agents with world drums, but no... I bought a few of their excellent expansions, and I rarely use it. I'm going to load it up today and put it though its paces Simon Stockhausen's Colliding Worlds is very cool https://www.steinberg.net/vst-instruments/groove-agent/expansions/colliding-worlds/ Good video . Just watched it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
telecode 101 Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Paul Young said: I have yet to discover the ones in Komplete, MDrummer, Battery, Modo Drums. 1 hour ago, Canopus said: I’ve had a discussion with myself today whether I should level up my Groove Agent SE and get Groove Agent, but after looking at the comparison chart at Steinberg my left brain finally told me no. I do have a lot of options when it comes to drums so I can’t find the motivation even at 50% off. The biggest benefit for me would have been to be able to use it outside Cubase. I think it all depends what you are doing with it. For me , I am a Cubase user, and automating the complexity and velocity in GA is really great and saves me lots of time. I used to program drums manually, which now I know was a huge waste of time. That time could have been better spent working on chords or riffs. Is someone really gonna turn around and go, "oh wow. Man, that closed hi hat MIDI part thingy you did there really makes that song man!!!" Then from there, I can use the kits in GA or export the midi and replace with other kits. I don't know, maybe EZD and SD can do that better. I don't really know. Also, worth checking out doc for some of the expansions. They are a lot deeper than they look. https://steinberg.help/simon_phillips_jazz_drums/v1/en/halion/topics/content_sets/simon_phillips_jazz_drums/simon_phillips_jazz_drums_c.html Edited July 7, 2022 by telecode 101 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canopus Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 1 hour ago, telecode 101 said: Then from there, I can use the kits in GA or export the midi and replace with other kits. I don't know, maybe EZD and SD can do that better. I don't really know. When it comes to transferring MIDI patterns between different drum program’s proprietary maps, I’m using Toontrack’s discontinued EZplayer Pro. That plugin is absolutely perfect for persistent remapping. I have started to convert MIDI grooves from Addictive Drums 2 through EZplayer Pro with EZD as destination. When automatically remapped, I drag the converted MIDI into a separate folder accessible by EZD3. That way I can actually include beats that originates from AD2 in EZD’s Tap2Find. Now how cool is that? As I’ve also got K12U I could theoretically do the same for all the MIDI drum patterns found in Komplete (Abbey Road, Studio Drummer and Battery) as they are also available as valid sources in EZplayer Pro. Groove Agent is available as well, as are e.g. BFD and SSD. Too bad Toontrack stopped selling EZplayer Pro many years ago, but from a commercial standpoint I can actually understand why. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 If using Cubase can use drum maps to accomplish in a more manual manner what EZ Player Pro did. Takes some time to build a map but once you make it can reuse, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrie Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 A nice article I found (may be useful to someone else) https://macprovideo.com/article/audio-software/everything-producers-need-to-know-about-drum-maps 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
telecode 101 Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 16 hours ago, Greg said: If using Cubase can use drum maps to accomplish in a more manual manner what EZ Player Pro did. Takes some time to build a map but once you make it can reuse, etc. For me, as a maschine user, its really handy. Its sort of allows lots of functionality of maschine but native to Cubase. Its a lot of clicking -- so I am learning various template tricks to try to save procedures. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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