abacab 5,980 Posted June 30 18 minutes ago, antler said: This one's a bit old, but great too https://windirstat.net/ I used to use that one, but found that Treesize is much faster, and can access system and hidden files better. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kevin H 1,988 Posted June 30 I’ve been giving Larry a hard time about his new computer build but super happy he is having fun and getting an awesome machine. I don’t know Larry if you are fully up but I walk away like 5 minutes and your posting rate is insane. I don’t know if I’ll be able to keep up going forward if this is just a preview Larry on steroids. Haha 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bapu 5,119 Posted June 30 5 hours ago, InstrEd said: Have fun with installing fan after fan after fan in your new computer🙂 Fixed for you Ed! 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Larry Shelby 25,999 Posted July 1 Man, those M2 Drives are SENSITIVE! I moved the fan that I had blowing on the motherboard just a little bit and BOOM, stopped working. I ordered 3 new case fans this morning and they'll be here today. Obviously, heat is apparently a HUGE issue for these drives! CPU is staying around 40c which is good, but that M.2 Drive likes to disappear when it gets to warm. The HWMonitor shows it at 35c after putting the fan back where it was! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Technostica 83 Posted July 1 I would use a heatsink if it's a particularly hot drive. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Larry Shelby 25,999 Posted July 1 18 minutes ago, Technostica said: I would use a heatsink if it's a particularly hot drive. I have a heat spreader on the drive... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
abacab 5,980 Posted July 1 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Technostica said: I would use a heatsink if it's a particularly hot drive. One of the two available M.2 slots on my ASUS board comes factory equipped with a heatsink. Check the other M.2 slot if so equipped. There is also a header for an M.2 fan here, whatever the heck that is? Edited July 1 by abacab Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Larry Shelby 25,999 Posted July 1 7 minutes ago, abacab said: One of the two available M.2 slots on my ASUS board comes factory equipped with a heatsink. Check the other M.2 slot if so equipped. There is also a header for an M.2 fan here, whatever the heck that is? Mine does also...but my M2 drive is PCIe 3.0...and the other slot is 4.0 only Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
abacab 5,980 Posted July 1 4 minutes ago, cclarry said: Mine does also...but my M2 drive is PCIe 3.0...and the other slot is 4.0 only Aha! That makes sense. My board is a couple of years old, and I believe that 4.0 is a more recent feature. Thanks to the steady creep of tech progress... My board config has both M.2 slots as PCIe 3.0. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Larry Shelby 25,999 Posted July 1 8 minutes ago, abacab said: Aha! That makes sense. My board is a couple of years old, and I believe that 4.0 is a more recent feature. Thanks to the steady creep of tech progress... My board config has both M.2 slots as PCIe 3.0. Both of my slots can be 4.0. Slot M2_1 is either 4.0 or 3.0, and slot M2_2 is strictly 4.0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Technostica 83 Posted July 1 51 minutes ago, cclarry said: Mine does also...but my M2 drive is PCIe 3.0...and the other slot is 4.0 only I thought that PCIe was backwardly compatible by default, so what makes you say it's PCIe 4.0 only? I looked at the spec sheet and it just says 4.0 for both.https://www.asus.com/Motherboards-Components/Motherboards/TUF-Gaming/TUF-GAMING-X570-PLUS-WI-FI/techspec/ Note: If your CPU is PCIe 3.0 then the slot linked directly to the CPU will be limited to 3.0 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Larry Shelby 25,999 Posted July 1 1 minute ago, Technostica said: I thought that PCIe was backwardly compatible by default, so what makes you say it's PCIe 4.0 only? I looked at the spec sheet and it just says 4.0 for both.https://www.asus.com/Motherboards-Components/Motherboards/TUF-Gaming/TUF-GAMING-X570-PLUS-WI-FI/techspec/ Note: If your CPU is PCIe 3.0 then the slot linked directly to the CPU will be limited to 3.0 I'm just going by what the manual says. It says M2_1 is 4.0/3.0, and that M2_2 is 4.0...it doesn't mention 3.0. One would think that, like USB 3.0 is backward compatible with 2.0 that it would be...but that's not what my Manual says. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Technostica 83 Posted July 1 (edited) 4 minutes ago, cclarry said: I'm just going by what the manual says. It says M2_1 is 4.0/3.0, and that M2_2 is 4.0...it doesn't mention 3.0. One would think that, like USB 3.0 is backward compatible with 2.0 that it would be...but that's not what my Manual says. That might well mean what the maximum supported is as that varies depending on the CPU used. So slot 2 is always UP to 4.0 as it's linked to the chipset which supports 4.0. Slot 1 is linked to the CPU and some compatible chips are UP to 3.0 and others UP to 4.0. Hence the term M2_1 = 4.0/3.0. Edited July 1 by Technostica 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Technostica 83 Posted July 1 I'm sure that both slots support 3.0 drives. 3.0 is only specifically mentioned for slot 1 due to the different PCIe support from the range of CPUs the board is compatible with. If you look below it shows the same specs for both slots when using a PCIe 4.0 compatible CPU. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Technostica 83 Posted July 1 (Note that PCIe 3.0 devices will also work normally on a PCIe 4.0 or 5.0 platform, thanks to backwards compatibility.) https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/gaming/resources/what-is-pcie-4-and-why-does-it-matter.html https://www.onlogic.com/company/io-hub/your-ultimate-guide-to-understanding-pcie-gen-4/#:~:text=How does PCIe 4.0 affect,to the PCIe 3.0 specs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Larry Shelby 25,999 Posted July 1 It would make sense since my CPU is Gen 3 and it's still running the 3.0 M2 drive... most likely it means "up to" 4.0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
abacab 5,980 Posted July 1 1 minute ago, cclarry said: It would make sense since my CPU is Gen 3 and it's still running the 3.0 M2 drive... most likely it means "up to" 4.0 So hopefully you can find out if the other M.2 slot runs cooler in your rig. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Larry Shelby 25,999 Posted July 1 With the new case fans, once installed, I shouldn't have to worry about it. That slot will get filled soon enough with a 4.0, and the current slot will get a 4.0 too, and the 3.0 will go to my external M2 enclosure LOL! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Larry Shelby 25,999 Posted July 1 (edited) I've been running for about 5 hrs now with no issues after putting the fan back and the M2 is staying 37c.....so that's good! Edited July 1 by cclarry 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
antler 1,377 Posted July 1 4 hours ago, cclarry said: Man, those M2 Drives are SENSITIVE! I moved the fan that I had blowing on the motherboard just a little bit and BOOM, stopped working. I ordered 3 new case fans this morning and they'll be here today. Obviously, heat is apparently a HUGE issue for these drives! CPU is staying around 40c which is good, but that M.2 Drive likes to disappear when it gets to warm. The HWMonitor shows it at 35c after putting the fan back where it was! Probably a bit late as you've already ordered, but I've always liked Noctua fans. The colour isn't exactly my taste, but hey - the fans go inside the case 😁 Probably a dumb question, but do the M2s have heatsinks on them? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
