cclarry Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 $14.50 in cart at JRR https://www.jrrshop.com/air-music-tech-xpand-2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abacab Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 Got it for $1 six years ago... 😉 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALC Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 Being such an ancient plugin, I was pleasantly surprised that it was updated in 2021 for both Mac and Windows. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abacab Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 2 hours ago, ALC said: Being such an ancient plugin, I was pleasantly surprised that it was updated in 2021 for both Mac and Windows. No feature/GUI/functional updates. Just compatibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT music Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 Only the hybrid is worth it to a certain extent, then the rest of the AIR add-ons are very low-quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Rintoul Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 1 hour ago, JT music said: Only the hybrid is worth it to a certain extent, then the rest of the AIR add-ons are very low-quality. Gotta disagree. Loom, Loom II, Vacuum and Vacuum Pro are all good. Even XPand!2 is decent for the odd mockup. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulo Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 24 minutes ago, Doug Rintoul said: XPand!2 is decent for the odd mockup. Yep. I often use it as a quick and dirty placeholder until I get more into the full development of the sound rather than spend too long messing about with the details when in composing mode. The pad layers in particular can be quite useful. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abacab Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 11 minutes ago, Doug Rintoul said: Gotta disagree. Loom, Loom II, Vacuum and Vacuum Pro are all good. Even XPand!2 is decent for the odd mockup. Loom II and Vacuum Pro are excellent sound machines. Both also have interesting patch "randomizing" features. Hybrid is capable of making some great moving sounds, with it's dual layers (parts A & B), containing 3 oscillators, dual modulation envelopes, dual filters, and a step sequencer per part. It's really a shame that AIR chose not to update the GUI on these, because they all have very good synth engines under the hood. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abacab Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 1 minute ago, paulo said: Yep. I often use it as a quick and dirty placeholder until I get more into the full development of the sound rather than spend too long messing about with the details when in composing mode. The pad layers in particular can be quite useful. Yes, it has a surprising number of bread and butter instrument sounds, beyond synth noises. Quite useful as a rompler for setting up placeholder sounds. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALC Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 Right now it works on Big Sur under Rosetta 2. Don’t know if it’ll get updated to be Apple Silicon native but the fact that it was recently updated hopefully means it hasn’t been abandoned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Smith Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 I keep looking. I see 64 bit in the spec. Ok. VST 3? Trying to decide if I need to upgrade my old set of AIR plugins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleer Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 Still a good juan. Def at $1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abacab Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 (edited) 42 minutes ago, Tim Smith said: I keep looking. I see 64 bit in the spec. Ok. VST 3? No VST3 for legacy AIR synths... 64-bit VST2 only. Edited May 6, 2022 by abacab 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abacab Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 42 minutes ago, Tim Smith said: Trying to decide if I need to upgrade my old set of AIR plugins. Upgrade them to what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALC Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 BTW, for those using Studio One, you can download a soundset for Xpand2 (as well as other AIR Music Tech instruments) from the cloud in PreSonus Exchange under Air Music Technology. It only works for the VST--it doesn't appear to work with the AU. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleer Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 If any of the usual suspects need it, I think I may still have an extra freebie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Smith Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 1 hour ago, abacab said: Upgrade them to what? VST3 if it's there. Apparently it isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abacab Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 10 minutes ago, Tim Smith said: VST3 if it's there. Apparently it isn't. Unfortunately the legacy AIR synths haven't seen any new development in years. The 2021 updates were "Performance enhancements for Windows 10". I suspect that was just an installer fix that for a bug that had hosed up Pace iLok on Windows 10. Plugin Boutique pulled the installers for many of the synths until that was fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starship Krupa Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 14 hours ago, abacab said: The 2021 updates were "Performance enhancements for Windows 10". I suspect that was just an installer fix Yeah, the "performance enhancements" amounted to "allowing it to perform after installation." I dutifully downloaded the "updates" even though I never had the same issue that many were complaining about. The installed .DLL's were exactly the same size and date as the previous revisions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rfssongs Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 I like Xpand2! it does not work in all of my files but when it does it has some nice full sounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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