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2 minutes ago, Fleer said:

This will come back and haunt you for months. 

It will. I feel like I've failed as a human being. My only comfort is that most of y'all will be quite a few levels in Hell below me, and I expect to hear your screams.

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...mine is always to get the MOST of what I want at the lowest possible price...as always.
I can't buy much during the rest of the year...so this is my time to "splurge" for goodies,
and that's only THANKS to you guys here!

Fortunately I just spoke to the guy from Social Security, and I have to provide proof
of my identity?  And THAT is after answering a hundred questions about...MY IDENTITY!
And, I can't "scan" or email anything to them...I have to use PHYSICAL MAIL to send it
to them, and it HAS to be an "Original", not a copy!

They do EVERYTHING that they possibly can to make you "give up"...but that's NOT going
to happen...LOL

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9 hours ago, bitflipper said:

Amen, brother.

I recently bought a plugin that I already owned and have never used. Still haven't used it.

This will likely be the third Black Friday in a row where I haven't bought anything. I just can't think of anything I really need, regardless of price. That includes both software and hardware.

Too bad you can't buy motivation. I'd pay full price for that. Wisdom, though, I'd wait for a sale.

Well yeah but............you bought Omisphere. After the first half million presets I would yawn too :)  If you have ENGINE, a nice Kontakt collection and Sampletank MAX a person could theoretically spend their remaining days going through patches. Orchestral sample libraries? I won't even go there.

But you mentioned plug ins..........yes for me that has an even greater 'meh' factor. After 1600-2000 that can become time consuming as well, especially if you can do what you need to do with a dozen of them. Older Cakewalk users have all of the things that came with platinum including those plugins, the plug ins that although are a part of another DAW some will scan into and can be used by Cakewalk. If you bought into waves or IK plugs.....then the small sales for stuff. It adds up fast.

If we become forgetful it can be like Christmas all over again. I hate to admit the times I've gone through my lists and seen something I forgot I owned.

 

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32 minutes ago, cclarry said:

...mine is always to get the MOST of what I want at the lowest possible price...as always.
I can't buy much during the rest of the year...so this is my time to "splurge" for goodies,
and that's only THANKS to you guys here!

Fortunately I just spoke to the guy from Social Security, and I have to provide proof
of my identity?  And THAT is after answering a hundred questions about...MY IDENTITY!
And, I can't "scan" or email anything to them...I have to use PHYSICAL MAIL to send it
to them, and it HAS to be an "Original", not a copy!

They do EVERYTHING that they possibly can to make you "give up"...but that's NOT going
to happen...LOL

I greatly appreciate what you do. 

Hopefully the SS thing isn't a new way for the govt. to save money. They just claim they lost us in the data base. Funny how that all works. When they were deducting money from our pay they seemed to find us every payday. Good luck! I would be relentless too. You worked for it, you deserve it.

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5 minutes ago, Starise said:

I greatly appreciate what you do. 

Hopefully the SS thing isn't a new way for the govt. to save money. They just claim they lost us in the data base. Funny how that all works. When they were deducting money from our pay they seemed to find us every payday. Good luck! I would be relentless too. You worked for it, you deserve it.

the two major issues with Social Security are.

1.  First and foremost, our Crooked Congress has stolen (and spent) the money
2.  The boomers are coming of age to collect, and that's HUGE, so they will try to do everything
       that they can to discourage us from collecting.  If the CROOKS in Congress had their way,
       SS would be eliminated...because they've already stolen the money!  That's why they have
      started calling it an "Entitlement", which it's NOT!  WE PAID FOR IT!  And if they had RIGHTLY
      paid us INTEREST on the money in our accounts, we'd be LOADED for retirement!  Instead,
      Creepy Joe, when he was a Senator, decided to back the TAXING of Social Security, and THEN
      he backed the INCREASE of taxes on Social Security, even though SS was supposed to be "Tax free"!

CROOKS AND CHARLATANS...one and all!

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3 minutes ago, cclarry said:

the two major issues with Social Security are.

1.  First and foremost, our Crooked Congress has stolen (and spent) the money
2.  The boomers are coming of age to collect, and that's HUGE, so they will try to do everything
       that they can to discourage us from collecting.  If the CROOKS in Congress had their way,
       SS would be eliminated...because they've already stolen the money!  That's why they have
      started calling it an "Entitlement", which it's NOT!  WE PAID FOR IT!  And if they had RIGHTLY
      paid us INTEREST on the money in our accounts, we'd be LOADED for retirement!  Instead,
      Creepy Joe, when he was a Senator, decided to back the TAXING of Social Security, and THEN
      he backed the INCREASE of taxes on Social Security, even though SS was supposed to be "Tax free"!

CROOKS AND CHARLATANS...one and all!

Agree 100%. How about them continually pushing the age up to get the full amount?  

They print invisible money for everything else, why not SS? 

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36 minutes ago, Starise said:

Agree 100%. How about them continually pushing the age up to get the full amount?  

They print invisible money for everything else, why not SS? 

That's part of the reason for pushing the age back...
Luckily I beat that!  The start for "pushing the age back" 
was being born on Jan 1st, 1960 or after...I was born Dec. 27th, 1959!
It's been a major struggle these past few years...so looking
forward to being "Solvent" again!

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On 11/27/2021 at 7:48 AM, cclarry said:

the two major issues with Social Security are.

1.  First and foremost, our Crooked Congress has stolen (and spent) the money
2.  The boomers are coming of age to collect, and that's HUGE, so they will try to do everything
       that they can to discourage us from collecting.  If the CROOKS in Congress had their way,
       SS would be eliminated...because they've already stolen the money!  That's why they have
      started calling it an "Entitlement", which it's NOT!  WE PAID FOR IT!  And if they had RIGHTLY
      paid us INTEREST on the money in our accounts, we'd be LOADED for retirement!  Instead,
      Creepy Joe, when he was a Senator, decided to back the TAXING of Social Security, and THEN
      he backed the INCREASE of taxes on Social Security, even though SS was supposed to be "Tax free"!

CROOKS AND CHARLATANS...one and all!

We're not supposed to get political here, Larry, and I think that's a good policy. I just want to address some of the far-right misinformation you stated on my  thread, which, until you posted had nothing political about it. Some basic facts to clarify on some of the misinformation you posted (and let's get back to not posting about politics, please): 

1. An "entitlement program" is the legal definition of a program that is a guaranteed right to Americans. I realize that a certain far-right media network uses "entitlement" exclusively as a pejorative term to refer to racial stereotypes (specifically, a racist trope) of a certain group with welfare, but that isn't how it is used legally since the inception of the Social Security program by FDR. Entitlement programs are fundamentally opposed by the GOP as part of their platform for more than 40 years as they have attempted to pass entitlement reform legislation (which means the phase out of Social Security and Medicare. the two largest socialist entitlement programs in the US; historically the GOP has proposed doing this by first raising the age of compliance and then switching the program to private for-profit corporations using a voucher system). A fundamental tenant of Republican (conservative) ideology is the opposition to entitlement programs, as they are by nature socialist programs, and, as such are the two programs fundamentally opposed by the GOP and all conservatives. They believe the government should not be involved in running such programs but should be only the realm of private business.  This is why for decades the Republican party has attempted to phase these programs out, most often referred to it as "entitlement reform."

2. The reason that Biden is looking to raise payroll taxes for Social Security and Medicare on people making more than $400,000  is because these two programs are soon to be insolvent. Medicare will be insolvent in 2024. That means it won't be able to pay at the current benefit rate. As the Republican party opposes Social Security and Medicare, they have long fought properly  funding these programs when it was clear that they were in trouble. The result is that the age to get benefits was raised and benefits were reduced. Currently, both programs pay out significantly more than recipients collect in benefits. So Trump put through more than $4 trillion in cuts to these programs during his term. I'm a former insurance exec from the largest broker in the world, btw. What will happen if Medicare doesn't get additional tax revenue? Benefits will need to be dramatically reduced. Likely by around at least 30%. Economists say that if you're just retiring, you'll need at least $200,000 to take you through the average retirement. Biden is trying to raise the funds to not just maintain current benefits but to improve them. His plan is to do this by charging taxes on those who make incomes above $400,000. Presently, if you make six figures or more you don't have to pay taxes for Social Security and Medicare beyond your first $135,000 (I think, it might be $136,000, I can't recall offhand, but I'm close). 

I realize that you have very strong far-right political views from our past conversations, cclarry, and I completely support everyone's right to their own beliefs -- I certainly don't entertain any illusions that I can make some persuasive point to change anyone's position -- but I take issue with your politicizing the forum and spreading hyperpartisan misinformation and have the instinct to correct false information. Let's keep this forum music related and not share your views on politics, BLM, critical race theory, vaccines, masking  or undocumented immigrants, etc.  There are other places to do that -- places I avoid because of the lack of civility. I love this forum because of how people treat one another. Let's keep it that way and not push political views. 

More info on Social Security's and Medicare's insolvency (I just skimmed the article just now, but it seemed very fact-based and non-partisan:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/ebauer/2021/09/01/more-than-an-insolvency-date-what-else-to-know-about-the-social-security-and-medicare-trustees-reports/?sh=29084571295d

 

 

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IBTL?

9 minutes ago, abacab said:

thought we were SHOULD BE talking about music here?

If it were me? I'd delete some off topic comments and get back to business.

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@cclarry I get it, I feel it, but we're on the edge of the TOS; just my nickel98, word to the wise maybe?...

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3 minutes ago, PavlovsCat said:

Hopefully we'll get back on track

Just went on a siding for a little detour ;)

Talking about track(s),  Is this a Multitrack layout.  Whoops here I go again talking about Toy Trains again :D

choo choo
choo choo
choo choo
choo choo

Does the above count as Multi-Track 😆

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I look at it this way, Larry spends a lot of time here. While I very much disagree with his social  worldview and political views, I grant him latitude in venting. He spends a lot of time making this section of the forum what it is. And come on, Larry's political post mimicks what happened at a lot of Thanksgiving tables here in the US as families gather together. 

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Yep PavlovsCat I'm glad my family stayed home for Thanks Giving as a couple of relatives are as far removed from my point of view. I learned to just be quiet as it is not worth it.  They  won't change and I for sure won't. 

So I made a small Turkey and sidings and had a peaceful day.  Even got to go play my keyboards for a little bit.  All was well.

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36 minutes ago, InstrEd said:

Yep PavlovsCat I'm glad my family stayed home for Thanks Giving as a couple of relatives are as far removed from my point of view. I learned to just be quiet as it is not worth it.  They  won't change and I for sure won't. 

So I made a small Turkey and sidings and had a peaceful day.  Even got to go play my keyboards for a little bit.  All was well.

My small family consists of my wife and two kids all had a nice Thanksgiving. But yes, my wife's family has similar views to Larry and don't like people of my ethnicity (I was told very directly), so the upside is that we don't see them on the holidays. More time for music too. I recorded a cover of "All You Need is Love" with my wife and kids singing harmonies. 

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