Bapu Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 22 minutes ago, Fleer said: It’s the streaming of orchestral samples that requires speed (and 64 gigs of ram). So, who actually streams? OPUS? SampleTank? NI (or addons to Kontakt such as OTS)? any others? FWIW I have 128gb of ram in both my PC and MacPro 2012, my libs are all on internal 8TB drives. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleer Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 9 minutes ago, Bapu said: So, who actually streams? OPUS? SampleTank? NI (or addons to Kontakt such as OTS)? any others? FWIW I have 128gb of ram in both my PC and MacPro 2012, my libs are all on internal 8TB drives. I’d invite you to the dark side, Bapster, but you can get a feel at VI Control if you’re so inclined Rest assured, Sampletank and most of NI or OTS don’t need heavy lifting. But if you’re thinking of the larger orchestral libs from East West, Spitfire Audio, Orchestral Tools, VSL and the like, well … That PC of yours should run them easily if your cpu is up to date, your Mac Pro may be up for an upgrade though. Those internal drives may also run a bit slow. Or not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bapu Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 6 minutes ago, Fleer said: I’d invite you to the dark side, Bapster, but you can get a feel at VI Control if you’re so inclined Rest assured, Sampletank and most of NI or OTS don’t need heavy lifting. But if you’re thinking of the larger orchestral libs from East West, Spitfire Audio, Orchestral Tools, VSL and the like, well … That PC of yours should run them easily if your cpu is up to date, your Mac Pro may be up for an upgrade though. Those internal drives may also run a bit slow. Or not I have a bunch of individual Spitfire libs that I got back in 2008 or earlier and EW Opus, no VSL or the like. I ran a decent size project using EW Hollywood Diamond with no discernable problems, but I'm not sure that qualified as streaming(?). My MacPro 8tb samples drive is a new (this year) WD Blue. I do have a 1TB NVME PCI drive in the MacPro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleer Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 Looks like you’re good, Bapuji. I’ll admit my new MBP should last a while. My last one is from 2012 … Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
husker Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 4 hours ago, cclarry said: I think Fleer is a little more than a Hobbyist... I thought he was a professional reverb buyer... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleer Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 3 minutes ago, husker said: I thought he was a professional reverb buyer... Yeah baby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 I have all of my SATA ports used up. Each System has about 3 2TB HDDs. I'm thinking of removing a lot of stuff rarely used and switching those drives to 1TB SSDs. I probably don't ever use 75% that comes in Komplete Ultimate. I've finally got my collection of loops down to under 400gb. Sampletank eats a lot of space. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris.r Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 Internal NVMEs are crazy fast. OTS libraries load in one second, maybe two. For someone who just switched from the spin disks that's a shock! I bought one 500GB two years ago as it looked like plenty space. Needless to say I ran out of space within the few next months... I blame this forum 🤣 After two years it feels laughable. Now I'm on a lookout for a 2TB chip. Looks like plenty space... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reid Rosefelt Posted November 22, 2021 Author Share Posted November 22, 2021 12 hours ago, kitekrazy said: I have all of my SATA ports used up. Each System has about 3 2TB HDDs. I'm thinking of removing a lot of stuff rarely used and switching those drives to 1TB SSDs. I probably don't ever use 75% that comes in Komplete Ultimate. I've finally got my collection of loops down to under 400gb. Sampletank eats a lot of space. If you have a free PCie slot open, you can buy an inexpensive card with many SATA slots. It doesn't have to be that fast a PCIe card. (In other words, not so long, with a lot of lanes) I bought one with 4. I've used two, so I'm kicking myself because I should have gotten one with 6 or 8 ports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reid Rosefelt Posted November 22, 2021 Author Share Posted November 22, 2021 (edited) I have 4 NVme drives. They do load stuff lightning fast. But once the library is loaded--it's the same as a regular SSD. That's been my experience, that's what I've read, and that's what I've heard from people on VI:Control. If you have libraries you use a lot that load super slow then it can save you a lot of annoyance. Some Audiofier libraries used to bug me. Or if you do big orchestral templates (but IMHO VEP pro is a better solution). But most of my libraries don't bother me at all. I have many of them on a regular platter. They come right up from there, so who cares? But I love having the NVMe's for certain things. Now that I can't put in any more, I'm going to be moving libraries around to get the most benefit. Edited November 22, 2021 by Reid Rosefelt 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleer Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 Moving libraries around. I’m getting good at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reid Rosefelt Posted November 22, 2021 Author Share Posted November 22, 2021 Cleaning up and throwing out what you don't need is also good. Spark joy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pseudopop Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 I just bought a 4 TB Samsung 870 QVO SATA SSD for €280 (about 316 USD). A good price where I live. I was tempted to buy two but I hope that by the time I need another one the prices have gone down significantly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InstrEd Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 6 minutes ago, Reid Rosefelt said: Cleaning up and throwing out what you don't need is also good. Spark joy! I wouldn't want to throw her out 😆 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleer Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 She looks happy though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reid Rosefelt Posted November 22, 2021 Author Share Posted November 22, 2021 Marie Kondo! https://konmari.com/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 2 hours ago, Reid Rosefelt said: If you have a free PCie slot open, you can buy an inexpensive card with many SATA slots. It doesn't have to be that fast a PCIe card. (In other words, not so long, with a lot of lanes) I bought one with 4. I've used two, so I'm kicking myself because I should have gotten one with 6 or 8 ports. What cards do you have? I'm thinking of going this route. The only thing is mounting the SSDs. I might have to use duct tape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eusebio Rufian-Zilbermann Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 Instead of adding 4 SATA ports, consider adding 4 nvme slots if your motherboard supports PCIe multiplex (a BIOS setting that converts one physical PCIe x16 slot into 4 logical PCIe x4 devices). https://www.newegg.com/asus-model-hyper-m-2-x16-card-v2-pci-express-to-4-x-m-2/p/N82E16815293043?Description=asus hyper m.2 x16 card v2&cm_re=asus_hyper m.2 x16 card v2-_-15-293-043-_-Product Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InstrEd Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 I didn't know such A device existed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 2 hours ago, Eusebio Rufian-Zilbermann said: Instead of adding 4 SATA ports, consider adding 4 nvme slots if your motherboard supports PCIe multiplex (a BIOS setting that converts one physical PCIe x16 slot into 4 logical PCIe x4 devices). https://www.newegg.com/asus-model-hyper-m-2-x16-card-v2-pci-express-to-4-x-m-2/p/N82E16815293043?Description=asus hyper m.2 x16 card v2&cm_re=asus_hyper m.2 x16 card v2-_-15-293-043-_-Product Seems like too much of a rocket science to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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