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A stunning addition to the Evolution guitar series of libraries for Kontakt, Evolution Dry Relic excels at realism. With one part detailed samples from a well-worn Gibson acoustic and one part powerful and flexible engine, this is my new favorite for acoustic guitar programing.
See the full written review of Evolution Dry Relic  here: https://bit.ly/3ne4vHJ

At the time of posting Evolution Dry Relic is available now for $139 (reg $179) - https://bit.ly/3AlNsrN
 

 

 

Evolution Dry Relic normally sells for $179.00 from Orange Tree Samples - https://bit.ly/3AlNsrN

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5 minutes ago, Fleer said:

Finger licking good !

Only 1 finger. If that is like stars 🌟 it wouldn't be a great endorsement 🤔

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What is amazing about these Evolution libraries is that while you can start by just playing the presets, if you want to do more there's an incredible amount of adjustments you can do. I was a fan from the early days and ended up consulting to the business and becoming friends with Greg, the tree keeper. But I have been using keyboards to emulate guitar since the 80s. I own a ton of other guitar sample libraries and VSTs and other devs, and some are good for doing simple things. But none has the same depth to the point where I find I can get deeper into a library after years of having it. That may not sound like a big deal, but it's actually huge. 

I commonly start out sticking to presets and using the basics of a library. But the Evolution stuff -- even though I had early input into the line -- Greg did some genius things that were just way over my head, the depth of these libraries is amazing and I'm still learning about different things I can do with these libraries that are not possibilities with any other guitar libraries I own or know of. To those who own these libraries and have spent serious time with them realizing everything you can do, it's truly astounding. That's not me promoting a friend's business, this is me as a musician being analytical about these libraries. If you delve into them, you are going to find a depth that you don't find in other libraries. 

 Can other users share similar experiences? I mean, I think it's been like a decade or so since Greg/OTS came out with this line, with Strawberry, and even this past weekend I was learning about new ways I can customize that library that blew me away. I suppose part of it is that I stuck to just using presets for so long and didn't venture deep into things.  But I really don't know of another guitar library with that kind of depth or any other library beyond drum VSTs like AD2, and Superior Drummer.  And I own probably a couple dozen other developers guitar libraries and VSTs, from the complex heavily scripted ones to the simplistic UJam VSTs (my least favorite guitar VSTs of all; they're just incredibly limited to the point that I have never found any of them useful; whereas NI's guitar libraries that come with KOMPLETE are limited, but nowhere near as limited as UJam VSTs, and I find them way more useful for basic strumming -- although they're no competition to the realism you get from the Evolution libraries, especially when it comes to playing beyond chord strums). 

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True, OrangeTreeSamples are up there with the very best. Started using the acoustic guitars for my Bach project (and they made it shine) only to see the electric guitars perform at the same high -highest- level. Wonderful indeed. 

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Do any of the third party retailers carry OTS, or are they only available direct? Just looking to pick up my first guitar library from these guys. Could be an expensive journey 😂

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2 hours ago, Marshall said:

Do any of the third party retailers carry OTS, or are they only available direct? Just looking to pick up my first guitar library from these guys. Could be an expensive journey 😂

I could be wrong, but I don't think I've seen them elsewhere. In any case though, I think you'd get the best deal buying direct - OTS usually has a group buy sale once a year. If you create an account, they'll (probably) offer you a survey that you can do to get some orange slices (discount points). If you combine the slices with the group buy price, you can get a really good deal, especially if you pick up a bundle.

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Yes, their group sale is usually mid-summer. If you don't want to wait that long, wait for BF. Maybe they'll have something then.

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11 hours ago, Marshall said:

Do any of the third party retailers carry OTS, or are they only available direct? Just looking to pick up my first guitar library from these guys. Could be an expensive journey 😂

Orange Tree Samples are only available directly from their site.  They often have Black Friday sales, so keep your eyes open for that. It's all dependant on what style you play, of you play, but if you play anything within the rock realm, I'd suggest you start with Evolution Rock Standard, which is a sample library of a Les Paul. That is my go to library. For the acoustics, it's a much harder choice, maybe Steel Strings or Songwriter. 

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9 hours ago, PavlovsCat said:

Orange Tree Samples are only available directly from their site.  They often have Black Friday sales, so keep your eyes open for that. It's all dependant on what style you play, of you play, but if you play anything within the rock realm, I'd suggest you start with Evolution Rock Standard, which is a sample library of a Les Paul. That is my go to library. For the acoustics, it's a much harder choice, maybe Steel Strings or Songwriter. 

Thanks. I am a guitar player first and foremost but I have used NI's Electric Sunburst Deluxe a lot over the past year. Been looking at adding one of their acoustic libraries. I'm definitely in the pop / rock genre. I spent yesterday researching the OTS options and am thinking Steel String would be the one to go for. I love the NI line, but OTS seems to offer a bit more flexibility and I'm very tempted I must say. 

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1 hour ago, Marshall said:

Thanks. I am a guitar player first and foremost but I have used NI's Electric Sunburst Deluxe a lot over the past year. Been looking at adding one of their acoustic libraries. I'm definitely in the pop / rock genre. I spent yesterday researching the OTS options and am thinking Steel String would be the one to go for. I love the NI line, but OTS seems to offer a bit more flexibility and I'm very tempted I must say. 

@Marshall

I'm a former semi-pro drummer that also plays piano and writes songs. Many years ago I had a bad tendinitis injury that stopped me from performing.  Although I was never good on guitar. So playing guitar parts on the keyboard are my only option. 

I am a marketing professional, well a business owner, but still do some consulting. I used to lead digital marketing at major brands before I went off on my own. But I've consulted to over a dozen sample library and plugin developers on branding, product development, marketing and promotions, including Orange Tree Samples and became good friends with Greg -- and frankly, I was a major fan of their libraries before I consulted and we developed a friendship. But I had early input on the Evolution libraries (as a user and business consulting, not as a programmer or anything else) -- I want to be clear about that so the relationship is clear. I've consulted to other guitar library sample developers over the years too. And I've done analysis on the various guitar sample libraries and VSTs. 

I have the latest version of KOMPLETE and do have and occasionally use NI's Electric Sunburst Deluxe and Strum, but they're the only non-sound design guitar libraries that I use besides Orange Tree Samples, and I thought it might be useful for you to know how I use them and the big differences between the Evolution guitars and the NI ones. The NI guitar libraries strumming patterns are  collections of loops, so there's no possibility for customization. However, I tend to use them as kind of rhythmic place holders when I'm working on a song. For instance, if it's an original song, I may choose a very basic 8th note strummed pattern that I put in until I can replace it with something more customized to the song. Of course, because NI is using a collection of loops, there's nothing you can do to tweak a pattern, whereas Evolution uses extremely detailed single notes for its strums. And when it comes to arpeggios and any single note parts, there's no comparison between the NI guitars and Evolution. They're simply not in the same league for someone who cares about authenticity. I strongly recommend that you check out all of the options for tweaking the notes and strum patterns on any of the Evolution guitars. It's really amazing and, as I mentioned, early on, I provided a lot of input into the feature set and Greg (the founder) went incredibly far beyond everything I suggested and here it is, probably a decade  since OTS launched the line and I still am finding out new things I can do, I seriously don't know of any other guitar library that goes as deep or sounds as realistic and is as customizable. I'd suggest, when you find the guitar you most want -- say Steel Strings -- that you check out the videos for it on YouTube and the manual.  It's really mind-blowing, IMO. I'm not allowed to disclose names of users, but it's been used on final production on A LOT of TV shows and even in pop songs. As far as I know, it was probably the first guitar sample library that was making it to final production. And it's still not equaled by anything else out there, IMO. The next closest is Ample Sounds, but I don't think they've taken things as deep, and you're at the mercy of a small developer and their proprietary plugin if there are issues. I know that there has been a trend for small developers to make their own plugins, but frankly, I really am not a fan of it. I've invested in KONTAKT and I prefer LESS plugins to worry about conflicts, updates, crashes, learning curves and other issues not more. I completely understand why small devs do it, but I already have -- literally -- more than 200 plugins, I don't want more. When one small dev I was a fan of switched from KONTAKT to his own plugins, I stopped buying his stuff. That's where I'm at today. 

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